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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by David_Bro » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:10 pm

I think it's interesting that any political figure before President Clinton would be taken down by any verbal gaffe of whatever much less any real mis-directed and/or illegal action on their part----be it governmental, constitutional or moral activity----to be clear and honest, I think Reagan began the routine when he slipped the noose from around his neck with Iran Contra (no offering an opinion in favor or against his actions, just say'n it) and then President Clinton, from even before he was elected and was beginning his campaign, was found to be in a mess----blame it on the internet where anyone can broadcast globally, right or wrong, what they think or have experienced, and he effectively slipped himself out of the noose, even addressing the nation on big media and getting out of all of it----now its the common path set by nation that is willing to put up with it and it comes from both sides of the aisle-----simply Trump is playing the same game with rules and behavior that has served all US governments since Reagan effectively---its just the new rules to the game and much like poker, the dealer typically calls the game and rules for his hand until he passes it on to his left.

I do find it interesting that Trump broadcasts via Twitter or other means with specific statements and then denies or severely bends what he has said and its bump in the road but he seems to weather it and on he goes----so an amendment now to the rules and behavior of our leaders----Don't think our next President after Trump, whether he goes to a second term or not and if he/she is liberal or conservative, will not take advantage of all that has been put into play by previous governments------Interesting to note, all the French leaders have had mistresses and I think it was Mitterand that was first brought out in the media in this regard---the French were "well of course" -----Hollande suffered the same exposure and the government on----the media brought it to light and government went on with out much to say about it so "se la vie."

I think its also interesting to note that before Nixon was implicated in watergate and the coverup he invited the nations top editors for a meet in Florida, alone, and there were 200 or 400 editors there I think and answered their questions over a 60 to 90 minute discourse----now he was lying in every way about it of course------but imagine any President since then and especially our last three putting themselves up to that type of scrutiny?

Simply, the rules have changed and its just what it is-----the media has a part in this as does the politician but in larger part, its the fault of the voter and citizen that has let this go------votes, except on voting day as they are tallied and its a blue or red state don't really matter except when CBS, NBC, FOX or CNN put them up on their board on election night-----Politicians make themselves scarce and are no longer seen by the public where the voter can get at them and let them now----you can write emails and letters and call but its just nonsense-----Its hard work on the part of the voter to get some time with a political representative and obviously the politician and staff foment this situation.

In the old days the politicians had to show up to ribbon cuttings, memorials, community events and now they don't as much as they can be there virtually via the technology we have----they had to have face time to get the votes and stay in power----not so much now. I am in news and have not covered my representative locally in one event over the last four years after our district was gerrymandered into his district.-----so in my opinion, its the voter that is responsible in this collapse of not getting what we want and deserve-----the politician is simply responding to his/hers best advantage in the habitat and environment we the voters have created.

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by frozen-north » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:03 am


Trump’s 24-year-old drug policy appointee was let go at law firm after he ‘just didn’t show’
January 20

A former Trump campaign worker appointed at age 23 to a top position in the White House’s drug policy office had been let go from a job at a law firm because he repeatedly missed work, a partner at the firm said.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... story.html

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by admin » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:47 pm

Dam. I just realized i have to record and watch the state of the union address.

Not because i believe anything that comes out of trumps mouth. Not out of even small sence of patriotism i might have left (and rapidly shrinking).

Because none of the comedy shows will make any sense for years to come.
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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by cali_chile48 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:36 pm

Just a little update.

Pumpinhead's ex campaign manager was convicted of 8 counts of fraud of various types, and, in a separate court room on the same day, Pumpkinhead's ex personal lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts of fraud and campaign finance law. Pumpkinhead is making more noise than ever about getting rid of Jeff Sessions, the head of the Department of Justice.....with the idea that a ew DOJ head would stop the Mueller investigation into Russian meddling.

Oh, and the owner of The National Enquirer and the CFO of the Trump Organization have both been granted immunity. They both have interesting stories to tell....

The heat is on...and it's gonna get a lot hotter, especially if the Democrats take control of the House, which seems quite likely. Then we'll see some congressional investigations with some teeth.

Impeachment in 2019? Convictions in 2021 (after Pumpkinhead finishes his miserable four years in office)?

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by nwdiver » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:36 am

cali_chile48 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:36 pm


Impeachment in 2019? Convictions in 2021 (after Pumpkinhead finishes his miserable four years in office)?
Conviction sooner if he quits........he's a quitter not a winner.........when the going get tough Trump bails.....
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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by El Zorro » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:02 am

cali_chile48 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:36 pm
Just a little update.

Pumpinhead's ex campaign manager was convicted of 8 counts of fraud of various types, and, in a separate court room on the same day, Pumpkinhead's ex personal lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts of fraud and campaign finance law. Pumpkinhead is making more noise than ever about getting rid of Jeff Sessions, the head of the Department of Justice.....with the idea that a ew DOJ head would stop the Mueller investigation into Russian meddling.

Oh, and the owner of The National Enquirer and the CFO of the Trump Organization have both been granted immunity. They both have interesting stories to tell....

The heat is on...and it's gonna get a lot hotter, especially if the Democrats take control of the House, which seems quite likely. Then we'll see some congressional investigations with some teeth.

Impeachment in 2019? Convictions in 2021 (after Pumpkinhead finishes his miserable four years in office)?
Add his personal accountant, Allen Weisselberg, who just jumped ship, as well.

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by admin » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:27 am

The cfo of trumps company was also granted immunity.

Only question is will muller bring charges prior to the november election, or follow the tradition of fed prosecutors standing down prior to elections.
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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by cali_chile48 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:45 am

I don´t think Mueller will bring charges against a sitting president. The president's son, however, could be in court before the mid-terms....or maybe they'll wait until a pardon is no longer possible....shouldn't be too long of a wait.

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by bert.douglas » Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:29 am

There is no way that there are 67 votes in the senate to impeach, even after the election. And talk about impeachment just strengthens support for Trump among his supporters.

Trump is trolling the press to distract attention. It is like poking an anthill with a stick. Every second of airtime is completely filled with the screams of ants angry at being poked. Meanwhile regulations are being rewritten throughout the bureaucracy.

There are constitutional questions about the appointment of Mueller. A prosecutor exercising as much independent power as Mueller is acting as an "officer of the united states" and falls under requirements of the appointments clause, and must be confirmed by the senate. The legal challenges are likely to go multiple times to the supreme court and will not be resolved before Trump leaves office.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/2018/05/21 ... stitution/

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/39 ... al-counsel

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by cali_chile48 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:30 pm

The House impeaches, and the Senate convicts. So it is well within the realm of possibility that Pumpkinhead will be impeached, just like Clinton was, and for far more serious offenses. Will the Senate convict? Probably not, because the Republicans in the Senate will put party before country. Again. One might imagine that the evidence will be so overwhelming that the Senators have very little choice but to convict, and many of them would happily do so if public opinion against that prick in the Oval Office gains enough momentum. But at this point it's doubtful.

The legal liability for Mr ADHD, and possibly his family members, will be greatest in 2021, when the issues of prosecuting a sitting a president and presidential pardons are off the table. It isn't hard to imagine subpoenas being issued the very hour a new president is sworn in. Between now and then, political punishment for the Reds will suffice. The legal punishment can wait.

As for the regulations...yes, they are being re-written, and they will be re-written again following the 2020 election. The CEOs know this. Their long term planning doesn't include this radical, temporary lurch to the right. A real pro-business platform would take into account the importance of stability.....but we have a disruptor in the Oval Office...so it's a bit incongruous to create so much instability and uncertainty while claiming to be "pro-business". It's really all about Pumpkinhead's ego, and it always has been.

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by frozen-north » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:57 pm

bert.douglas wrote:
There are constitutional questions about the appointment of Mueller.
There are some differing opinions on this point:
As questions swirl over Trump interview, judge guts potential defense strategy

August 4, 2018

.... a federal judge in Washington issued a tome on why Mueller's appointment was rock-solid in the first place.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/04/politics ... index.html

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by nwdiver » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:02 pm

I think enaugh republican senators are pissed and want a do over (even if it hurts now) so a conviction is possible from the senate, count how many republican senators he has pissed off.......most of them.....
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