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Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:43 pm
by john
I'm not opposed to the negotiation of "fair trade" agreements; however, I am a strong opponent of TPP. My major problems with it were the spreading of US patent protection rights to the other signatory nations and the insidious 'Dispute Settlement' chapter which would have threatened the sovereignty of signatory nations. But, let's be clear, the cancellation of the TPP makes China the big winner.

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:01 pm
by HybridAmbassador
john wrote:I'm not opposed to the negotiation of "fair trade" agreements; however, I am a strong opponent of TPP. My major problems with it were the spreading of US patent protection rights to the other signatory nations and the insidious 'Dispute Settlement' chapter which would have threatened the sovereignty of signatory nations. But, let's be clear, the cancellation of the TPP makes China the big winner.
Yep, Trump just abandoned the TPP but wasn't even started so no one could gotten out of any still formed trade partnership?
AU's Turnbull wants to bring the PRC into forming a new TPP agenda, what a fiasco!

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:36 pm
by admin
Chile announced they are pulling out of the tpp, and is set to negotiate new direct trade deals with korea and china.

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:52 pm
by MJSaywell
NZ too is keen to carry on without the US, all other TPP members are meeting here in Chile in a few months. Japan originally said it was pointless without the US but now have decided it's worth pursuing without them. China, Russians, Japan etc all keen to fill the vacuum created by US in political and trade matters now, make America great again? More like make America irrelevant on the world stage.

TPP resurrection

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:49 am
by Andres

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:20 pm
by frozen-north

American Companies Still Make Aluminum. In Iceland.
JULY 1, 2017

President Trump blames China for flooding global markets with subsidized aluminum.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/us/p ... eland.html

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:04 pm
by nwdiver
frozen-north wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:20 pm

American Companies Still Make Aluminum. In Iceland.
JULY 1, 2017

President Trump blames China for flooding global markets with subsidized aluminum.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/01/us/p ... eland.html
Can't repatriate those jobs, Trump wants Norwegians not Icelanders...........I quess they could be considered second rate Norwegians.........

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:38 pm
by HybridAmbassador
So the new TPP 11 to sign agreement in Chile come March? Now Trump saying he doesn't mind re-joining the previous TPP 12. But he wants better deal for his America 1st. Also indicates US staying in world climate accord, but of course if America 1st..

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:38 am
by nwdiver
HybridAmbassador wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:38 pm
So the new TPP 11 to sign agreement in Chile come March? Now Trump saying he doesn't mind re-joining the previous TPP 12. But he wants better deal for his America 1st. Also indicates US staying in world climate accord, but of course if America 1st..
If he wants America 1st for NAFTA, Canada is walking........

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:24 pm
by admin
It is not clear if that is going to be signed by the Bachelet administration or Pinera. Pinera was totally opposed to the TPP when it started, mostly because it was either redundant (Chile has bi-lateral trade agreements pretty much with all those countries already).

Meanwhile, Bachelet and company like's to sign unpopular agreements at the 11th hour of her administration (e.g. FATCA, SQM settlement, etc).

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:36 pm
by eeuunikkeiexpat
admin wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:24 pm
Meanwhile, Bachelet and company like's to sign unpopular agreements at the 11th hour of her administration (e.g. FATCA...
You mean the tax information exchange agreement posing as a double taxation treaty. FATCA, there was no choice in the matter.

Chile-USA tax treaty approved by Chile legislature but never approved by the US Senate:
...7 years later, the Tax Treaty has not yet entered into force – while it was approved by the Chilean Congress in 2015, it has not been ratified by the U.S. Senate. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved the Tax Treaty in both 2011 and 2015, but Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) has placed a hold on the Tax Treaty, along with tax treaties with 7 other countries, due to concerns that the exchange of information provisions infringe on personal privacy, blocking their consideration by the full chamber. To date, no compromise has been reached, and the future of the Tax Treaty remains uncertain, particularly under the current administration.
https://www.latlegal.com/2017/04/the-fu ... uncertain/

Thank you Rand Paul!

Re: chile's future in the TPP...?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:53 pm
by admin
Well the TPP light is being signed today in chile, minus the u.s. and its bullshit intelectual property clauses.

http://www.latercera.com/negocios/notic ... nos/91309/

Let's see what other gifts trump's war on trade yields.