War with Iran just started

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Re: War with Iran just started

Post by mem » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:35 am

Seems iran knew it was inevitable...they couldnt decode the black boxes and had to send them to France and then the Ukrainian investigators found evidence of a missile strike.

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Re: War with Iran just started

Post by bert.douglas » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:16 pm

mem wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:48 pm
I can buy the Iranian incompetence narrative, but if it comes to be confirmed that legit nuclear scientists really were on board...then the much darker more sinister geopolitical narrative becomes much more likely
Well that depends on how many foreign nuclear scientists are working in Iran and how often they travel. It may well be that there are nuclear scientists on every flight. So this could mean nothing. If it is even true.

However, getting slapped in the face with the Epstein "suicide" does draw one's thinking towards conspiracy theories.

It would be easy enough to sneak in to the airport and attach a small box by magnet to the landing gear of the aircraft. This box could contain an IFF transponder to make the airliner appear to be an american warplane.

We will never know the truth. It is by now hopelessly obscured. The first casualty of war.

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Re: War with Iran just started

Post by admin » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:15 pm

bert.douglas wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:16 pm
mem wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:48 pm
I can buy the Iranian incompetence narrative, but if it comes to be confirmed that legit nuclear scientists really were on board...then the much darker more sinister geopolitical narrative becomes much more likely
Well that depends on how many foreign nuclear scientists are working in Iran and how often they travel. It may well be that there are nuclear scientists on every flight. So this could mean nothing. If it is even true.

However, getting slapped in the face with the Epstein "suicide" does draw one's thinking towards conspiracy theories.

It would be easy enough to sneak in to the airport and attach a small box by magnet to the landing gear of the aircraft. This box could contain an IFF transponder to make the airliner appear to be an american warplane.

We will never know the truth. It is by now hopelessly obscured. The first casualty of war.
I vote for nuclear scientist, with a candle stick, on the Ukrainian airplane.

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Re: War with Iran just started

Post by nwdiver » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:04 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:01 am
Tragic situation but impressive honesty from a government.
They are only honest because the Ukrainian guys saw obvious shrapnel damage and were sending sample that would show what explosive was used to their lab, they have samples of Russian explosives to compare it to, Iran decided their bulldozing of the crash site and saying the Black Boxes were destroyed was not going to save them, now they are saying the Rev Guard didn’t tell them the truth......
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Re: War with Iran just started

Post by admin » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:43 am

well there is another piece of this puzzle that i have not seen anyone discuss in the news, basically why they had such a hair trigger. these were in the news, but tend to be more military orientated news sources rather than mainstream frontage type stories.

think it was a couple of years ago. the Israeli military penetrated Iran's airspace using their American made f-35 fighters as a test to see if they could bomb iran. They made it over Tehran airspace and withdrew, without ever being detected.

heads literally rolled in the revolutionary guard ranks after.

if you follow the news reports over the last few years, you will see a clear pattern of bombing across Syria and Iraq, of Iranian run SAM missile sites and radar systems, to keep a corridor open should Israel need to hit iran.

so Iran knew they were vulnerable to American and isreal tech. given the tension, and dumbass trumps threats, they were probably given 'shoot first, ask questions' later orders.
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Re: War with Iran just started

Post by nwdiver » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:38 am

Well it appears there were only 3 CANADIANS aboard the flight, or so says the Iranians who are one of the few countries that do not recognize dual citizenship...... Canada is having trouble repatriating dead bodies...... unlike other countries that don’t recognize dual citizenship Iran doesn’t allow one to renounce their citizenship if they hold another passport.....
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