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Huentel
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Adopted from Chile

Post by Huentel » Sun May 20, 2012 6:43 pm

Hi! I'm new to this forum, and don't exactly know where to post this topic. Don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'm willing to take a chance. Well, to start with, I'm a 21 year old boy (or I guess I'm a man now? :shock: ) from Norway. I was born in february 1991 in Temuco, but adopted to Norway at two months. So I'm raised in Norway and (sadly) don't speak a word spanish, which unfortunately makes this whole process a lot more harder for me. The thing is, I want to find my chilean family, my birthmother.. Since I don't have any contacts in Chile and the fact that I don't speak any spanish (well,only simple words and sentences as "hello", "goodbye" and "I have a dog", which obviously won't get me anywhere) lol :mrgreen: I could use some help. I do have a name, actually. And an adress (probably an old one). And I know her age.. But where can I possibly find a person who can track her down? I guess it would be a whole lot easier if I actually lived in Chile, but from the other side of the world and with no contacts in Chile, there's pretty much nothing I can do at the moment. Please, help me out with this one. Whom do I contact in a situation like this?

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Andres » Mon May 21, 2012 1:27 am

There are others on the forum which can ask you more helpful questions, but mine are:
- do you have a copy of your Chilean birth certificate?
- do you know if you have a RUT = RUN = national ID number and what it is?
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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Huentel » Mon May 21, 2012 1:20 pm

I do have a birth certificate. But I don't have a national ID number in Chile, because I'm a norwegian citizen.

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by paladin » Mon May 21, 2012 2:32 pm

Were you adopted privately, ie directly from your birth parents, or fron Sename? We adopted a boy at 10 days old via Sename, and were told that if at some time in the future, the boy wanted to trace his parents, he could go to them and they would do their best. I believe that Carabineros also have a small specialist group who trace parents, as I saw one of their cases on the TV. So far our son has 'nt asked about his birth parents but when he does, these are the two routes that we will probably take. Having the RUT of his mother would probably help a lot. You say that you don' have a RUT, but my son was given to us at 10 days old and he had a RUT . I don't know how he got it but if you were from Sename, maybe they registered you? The fact that you are a Norwegian citizen doesn't stop you from having a RUT

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Donnybrook » Mon May 21, 2012 3:28 pm

On the birth certificate does it show an address in Temuco city? The police in Chile, Carabineros, have been the most successful at reuniting birth parents and adopted children. There is actually an officer in the area who has been most successful. He chases up old addresses, election rosters etc. and phones to see if the birth parents are interested in connecting. You must be aware that not all are. Sometimes they have closed that chapter of their life. If you want to make any enquiries yu are going to need to find a Spanish speaker to help you. You might find someone at the consulate but you might also look for any Chilean willing to help. They would have the advantage of knowing how the country works.

Here are some Chilean organisations in Oslo. You might see if someone there would help you (although the website link for the Casa de Cultura doesn't work, you might try emailing or phoning):
http://chileabroad.gov.cl/oslo/sobre-el ... -chilenos/

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Huentel » Mon May 21, 2012 4:05 pm

I found my old passport, and something called "national identity card" - a number. Is this the RUT? Will this help me at all? I don't know my birthmothers though. I was adopted via Sename. Should I contact them instead? There might be a problem, since I was adopted I have changed my name. Both my chilean name, and the name I was given by my norwegian parents. But other information (such as surname etc) is still accurate. I have very little information about my birthmother, but I do know her whole name (all though she might have married and changed her surname? Don't know how that works in Chile). I also know her age (17 when I was born), and her (probably old) address in Temuco. Thank you so much for good suggestions! I will definitely try to email them, and see if I can get one step further! The police also seems like something to consider.

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Billhere » Mon May 21, 2012 5:04 pm

We adopted our daughter through SENAME in 1991. She has shown only a little interest in tracing her Mother but when we enquired with SENAME there had been some sort of major disaster with all the records having been destroyed by flooding in the late '90s.

Your adoption papers should should show you parents name. Our daughters natural Father wanted money for signing her over to us so she was made a ward of court so we don't even have that. Our daughter was the first child adopted from abroad after there was a change of system following a baby selling scandal in the '80s. They did a tv programme at the time showing what we had to do to get her legally.

Good luck with your quest.

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Huentel » Mon May 21, 2012 5:31 pm

Yes, it shows my birthmothers name. She told them she wanted an adoption at an early stage of the pregnancy, so there was never any legal issues as far as I know. I stayed at a home for orphan children (don't know the exact term in english) until I was adopted at two months old.

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by zer0nz » Mon May 21, 2012 7:24 pm

Huentel wrote:I found my old passport, and something called "national identity card" - a number. Is this the RUT? Will this help me at all? I don't know my birthmothers though. I was adopted via Sename. Should I contact them instead? There might be a problem, since I was adopted I have changed my name. Both my chilean name, and the name I was given by my norwegian parents. But other information (such as surname etc) is still accurate. I have very little information about my birthmother, but I do know her whole name (all though she might have married and changed her surname? Don't know how that works in Chile). I also know her age (17 when I was born), and her (probably old) address in Temuco. Thank you so much for good suggestions! I will definitely try to email them, and see if I can get one step further! The police also seems like something to consider.
put that number into this cool site, see what you get :)

https://www.registrocivil.cl/OficinaInt ... /HomeVenta

if you can get your mothers rut, you will be surpised how often you can find peoples info just by putting variations of the rut into google,

ie. with . without. with - without - and so on.....

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Vicki and Greg Lansen » Mon May 21, 2012 7:54 pm

As someone who was adopted and found and reconnected with my biological father in my twenties, I can relate to your quest. My reunion was wonderful, as has been my relationship since. However, I know other adoptees who did not have such a happy ending. That said, the never knowing is often much more haunting than the knowing is painful. I so hope it all ends well. What great info from the forum here. Kudos to all who have given such great advice and direction. I'll be watching to hear how things work out.

Best wishes,

Vicki

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Donnybrook » Mon May 21, 2012 8:22 pm

Your mother, as a Chilean, will retain her maiden name on all her papers even if she marries. So the name you have is the name you can look for.

Contact Sename first and see what information they might have.

If you have her RUT number and an address she should be traceable, either through the Registro Civil (although they say 30% of the addresses they have are wrong) or with the help of the police, who are very good in these situations..

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Re: Adopted from Chile

Post by Huentel » Mon May 21, 2012 9:48 pm

Thank you all so much for helping! I''m aware of the fact that this might not always get a positive outcome, but I've come to a conclusion that I have nothing to lose, really. I feel very fortunate to have grown up in Norway, and I'm sure I've had a better childhood than my birthmother (at age 17, as a singlemother without a job or money) , considering her situation, could possible give me. My adoptive father actually passed away 3 years ago,( 2 weeks before my 18th birthday) and this was kind of a wake up call. Life is so short. As happy I am with my life nowadays ; a great family and friends, an absolutely wonderful girlfriend, - there's still something missing. If it don't turn out the way I hope, at least I don't have to live my life in curiosity..

I have both name and address. I've tried to Google her name a few times, but no match was found. So I really doubt that I'll be able to find her "RUT" or other information. I've red through my papers a dozen times, but her RUT is nowhere to be found.. I can see that she has a very long name, but her surname is Huentel. Don't know if that's a common name in Chile.. I will try to contact Sename as soon as possible, I guess I'll just have to gather all the information I can possible find. :-)

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