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Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by Jbaber » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:53 pm

She is about 70 years old.Has no money and has had a heart attack and coronary artery blockage.I was told by her and family that waiting lists for procedures for poor people are long.Could someone tell me how to help her.I live in Alabama USA.I am a RN.I fear that time is not on her side and would like to assist financially.I just don't know how to begin.She tells me that she has an appointment to see a cardiologist in April.
Thanks for any insight and advice
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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:16 pm

You need to see if she has any coverage for the private system under FONASA. If she is not paying a monthly fee equivalent to a minimum wage worker, she has no coverage for the private system and it will be full price all the way in the private system from first doctor visit to operation and recovery.
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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by Gloria » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:40 pm

Poor chileans have more benefíts than anyone else. They know where to ask for help. It's matter of calling the Township (Municipalidad) where they live ... Don't send cash or make money transfers. If you do, you are on your own.
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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:54 pm

Gloria has a point, hate to be assholish but how do you know they are not trying to play you for a ca$h windfall?
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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by Gloria » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:43 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:54 pm
Gloria has a point, hate to be assholish but how do you know they are not trying to play you for a ca$h windfall?
You don´t but all other resources must be exhausted before putting your hands in your pockets.
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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by frozen-north » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:33 pm

Gloria wrote:
Poor chileans have more benefíts than anyone else. They know where to ask for help. It's matter of calling the Township (Municipalidad) where they live ... Don't send cash or make money transfers. If you do, you are on your own.
If you read again the original message you will see that the OP was not asked for money. That was not the actual question.
Jbaber wrote:
She is about 70 years old.Has no money and has had a heart attack and coronary artery blockage.I was told by her and family that waiting lists for procedures for poor people are long.Could someone tell me how to help her.I live in Alabama USA.I am a RN.I fear that time is not on her side and would like to assist financially.I just don't know how to begin.She tells me that she has an appointment to see a cardiologist in April.
Thanks for any insight and advice
I don't know what options are available for your friend, but according to the quote below it looks as if those that have access to the private system have much faster access to cardiologists.
mayo 16, 2017
La probabilidad de espera para un afiliado del sistema público es 6 veces mayor que un beneficiario particular.

Sólo un 7,4% de los usuarios Particulares se encuentran en lista de espera para atención en salud, mientras que en los afiliados de FONASA la cifra sube a 45,7%. Es decir, la diferencia es 6 veces mayor en los usuarios del seguro público.

En cuanto al Tiempo de Espera, se estableció que un 35,7% de estas personas lleva más de 6 meses y 27% entre 3 y 6 meses. En el caso específico de los beneficiarios de FONASA, la lista de espera es de 70% para consulta de un Médico Especialista, 15,5% para exámenes y 14,3% para una cirugía. Y el 36,6% lleva más de 6 meses esperando. Entre los usuarios Particulares, en cambio, ninguno ha sobrepasado ese límite de tiempo.


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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by Gloria » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:59 pm

frozen-north wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:33 pm

If you read again the original message you will see that the OP was not asked for money. That was not the actual question.
The actual question is, "Could someone tell me how to help her.... and would like to assist financially." and my answer was..." Poor chileans have more benefíts than anyone else. They know where to ask for help. It's matter of calling the Township (Municipalidad) where they live ... Don't send cash or make money transfers. If you do, you are on your own".
I never said they were asking for money, so what part of the sentence you didn´t understand?
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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:18 pm

Subject to confirmation, my take is that she is a non-contributor FONASA client and thus 100% tied to the public system with their waitlists and such but where virtually 100% is covered if you don’t die before your number is called or then die as a result of sub-standard care.

If she wants immediate attention via the private system, they will need money and lots of it (but not nearly as much as the States).

Local bingos, raffles, etc. will only go so far unless as Gloria claims, there is a way to jump the queue.
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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by frozen-north » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:54 pm

Gloria wrote:
The actual question is, "Could someone tell me how to help her.... and would like to assist financially." and my answer was..." Poor chileans have more benefíts than anyone else. They know where to ask for help. It's matter of calling the Township (Municipalidad) where they live ... Don't send cash or make money transfers. If you do, you are on your own".
I never said they were asking for money, so what part of the sentence you didn´t understand?
You did not answer the question as to what she could do to help. Read again:
She is about 70 years old.Has no money and has had a heart attack and coronary artery blockage. ...would like to assist financially.I just don't know how to begin. ...She tells me that she has an appointment to see a cardiologist in April.
To say that the 'Poor chileans have more benefíts than anyone else' and 'Don't send money', is not much of an answer, and even the truth of that first statement is debatable.

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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by Gloria » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:17 pm

You are trying to pick an argument. That's all. The answer can be seen even by Ray Charles. The OP needs to referred them to the resources already mentioned, once those are exausted only then make a contribution. You don't send money unless you know the person very well. We all know the 1001 ways of getting scammed.......and if she's acquainted with her.....I'm sure the OP knows how to assist financially thru a bank or other means ( Western Union, etc).
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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by El Zorro » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:25 am

The literal upshot of the original post is that this person “would like to assist financially” and “just don't know how to begin.” Assuming that this person is a woman, can anybody here grant her this wish and educate her on how to assist financially a person in such a predicament? If the OP hopes to recruit people to contribute with actual money, she’s dealing with with a sophisticated crowd here.

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Re: Have a poor friend in Santiago needing cardiac care and possibly surgery.How can I help her from US?

Post by frozen-north » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:19 am

Gloria wrote:
The OP needs to referred them to the resources already mentioned, once those are exausted only then make a contribution. ..... I'm sure the OP knows how to assist financially thru a bank or other means ( Western Union, etc).
And what resources were mentioned in your answer?
Gloria wrote: Poor chileans have more benefíts than anyone else. They know where to ask for help. It's matter of calling the Township (Municipalidad) where they live ... Don't send cash or make money transfers. If you do, you are on your own.

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