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Re: Housing market situation

Post by admin » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:38 pm

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that was my big security breach of the week.

a chilean partridge.

I had to make a fast decision. Do i shoot him with my camera or wrist rocket. forum or fuego. forum or oven?
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Re: Housing market situation

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think about this.

32% of the world land mass is below the equator.

now subtract all the wonderful places to (not) live there (e.g. Antarctica, rain forest, super stable Venezuela, Argentina, etc, etc.).

buying land in southern chile, is buying in to the 1%.

OF THE WORLD!!!
Hell, you can not live even in over half of chile; for one reason or another (e.g. mountains, dessert, bad part of city, not for sale, can not be sold, etc).
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by 41southchile » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:55 am

Baltimore wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:23 pm
Unless you move most of the government buildings down to, say, Valdivia or Concepción, I find it hard to believe that headquarter buildings in Santiago (think Sanhattan, all financial and consulting firms, etc) will move south because of the effects of climate change in central Chile. Vineyards and farms are already moving south because they have to, but unless we see massive investments in new infrastructure in some southern city(ies), I don't see a stampede of people from Santiago and the surrounding areas moving south anytime soon.

Young friends that have moved down south expecting to make $ while having a good quality of living are already back in Santiago, the only ones that remain south are the ones that had made some good $ working in profitable jobs in Santiago or mining companies (or abroad) BEFORE they moved south. Of course, this all depends on your expectations.

Hopefully I am wrong because I love the south and I look forward to see a less centralized country sometime in the future.
You right, theres never going to be a stampede, Santiago is not like Jakarta and sinking away. The most likely candidates for moving South are the retired, semi retired, self employed/ independents, branch office workers looking after this end of the country, hijitos o hijitas de papi with lots of money, homesteaders or those whose focus is not just money, teachers, doctors and other in demand jobs. Even if its eventually only 2 or 3 percent Chileans of Santiago descent, that's still potentially 150 k to 200k mas o menos, which imo would have a positive impact on the South (depending on who you are your opinion on that may differ).
The young friends you mention? What were they doing where the expected to make good money? If it was for someone else, chances are the had false expectations, the South generally doesn't pay as high a wage if your working for da man, as Santiago does.
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if they got say even 10% of the population to leave Santiago, or the immediate central region, it would go a very long way to taking the pressure off the infrastructure of the central region.
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by Baltimore » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:58 am

That would be wonderful, Santiago is really nice during holidays, when a % of the population leaves the city.

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by mem » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:43 am

admin wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:38 pm
20191007_183555.jpg

that was my big security breach of the week.

a chilean partridge.

I had to make a fast decision. Do i shoot him with my camera or wrist rocket. forum or fuego. forum or oven?
I cant tell from the pic, but does it have a really short curved beak? I saw a largeish bird land in our yard and I was immediatley surprised becasue it was bigger than the swallows and ibis and occasional Falcons we see but it has a very unique and short break. Wonder if it's the same bird

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by mem » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:45 am

mem wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:43 am
admin wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:38 pm
20191007_183555.jpg

that was my big security breach of the week.

a chilean partridge.

I had to make a fast decision. Do i shoot him with my camera or wrist rocket. forum or fuego. forum or oven?
I cant tell from the pic, but does it have a really short curved beak? I saw a largeish bird land in our yard and I was immediatley surprised becasue it was bigger than the swallows and ibis and occasional Falcons we see but it has a very unique and short break. Wonder if it's the same bird
Ah nevermind... looked it up and it's a totally different bird. My bird looked like a cross between a Turkey and a parrot...gotta figure this out

Yeah so this was my intruder I think..but mine was bigger than this pic

Image

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by at46 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:09 am

41southchile wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:55 am
Baltimore wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:23 pm
Unless you move most of the government buildings down to, say, Valdivia or Concepción, I find it hard to believe that headquarter buildings in Santiago (think Sanhattan, all financial and consulting firms, etc) will move south because of the effects of climate change in central Chile. Vineyards and farms are already moving south because they have to, but unless we see massive investments in new infrastructure in some southern city(ies), I don't see a stampede of people from Santiago and the surrounding areas moving south anytime soon.

Young friends that have moved down south expecting to make $ while having a good quality of living are already back in Santiago, the only ones that remain south are the ones that had made some good $ working in profitable jobs in Santiago or mining companies (or abroad) BEFORE they moved south. Of course, this all depends on your expectations.

Hopefully I am wrong because I love the south and I look forward to see a less centralized country sometime in the future.
You right, theres never going to be a stampede, Santiago is not like Jakarta and sinking away. The most likely candidates for moving South are the retired, semi retired, self employed/ independents, branch office workers looking after this end of the country, hijitos o hijitas de papi with lots of money, homesteaders or those whose focus is not just money, teachers, doctors and other in demand jobs. Even if its eventually only 2 or 3 percent Chileans of Santiago descent, that's still potentially 150 k to 200k mas o menos, which imo would have a positive impact on the South (depending on who you are your opinion on that may differ).
The young friends you mention? What were they doing where the expected to make good money? If it was for someone else, chances are the had false expectations, the South generally doesn't pay as high a wage if your working for da man, as Santiago does.
I see some Santiago professionals like doctors looking for greener pastures due to the fierce competition from recent immigrants. Once you've dealt with a Venezuelan or Panamanian doctor, it's hard to convince yourself to try a Chilean :)

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Re: Housing market situation

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mem wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:45 am
mem wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:43 am
admin wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:38 pm
20191007_183555.jpg

that was my big security breach of the week.

a chilean partridge.

I had to make a fast decision. Do i shoot him with my camera or wrist rocket. forum or fuego. forum or oven?
I cant tell from the pic, but does it have a really short curved beak? I saw a largeish bird land in our yard and I was immediatley surprised becasue it was bigger than the swallows and ibis and occasional Falcons we see but it has a very unique and short break. Wonder if it's the same bird
Ah nevermind... looked it up and it's a totally different bird. My bird looked like a cross between a Turkey and a parrot...gotta figure this out

Yeah so this was my intruder I think..but mine was bigger than this pic

Image
Nope, definitly not that one.

Here is a better photo of them I took a few years ago.
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They look and act like a wild chicken.
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by Britkid » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:16 pm

mem wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:31 pm
Wow only 3meters and now 4 meters?
I guess that is a bit encouraging...I don't know a lot about wells but I thought wells were generally closer to a minimum of 6 or 7 meters. If nothing else to avoid contamination from surface water seeping down

I guess santiago's water table is pretty high as in near the surface, perhaps there is much more water still to be tapped with more traditionally deep wells?
Actually sorry I made a mistake it was 4 metres and now it has been extended to 5.

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by Baltimore » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:32 pm

Might be of your interest:

Addressing built-in biases in real estate investment
The value in taking a behavioural lens to commercial real estate investing

https://www.fidelity.co.uk/static/pdf/i ... estate.pdf

Nice little manual with suggestions from Fidelity International.
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by 41southchile » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:46 am

Britkid wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:16 pm
mem wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:31 pm
Wow only 3meters and now 4 meters?
I guess that is a bit encouraging...I don't know a lot about wells but I thought wells were generally closer to a minimum of 6 or 7 meters. If nothing else to avoid contamination from surface water seeping down

I guess santiago's water table is pretty high as in near the surface, perhaps there is much more water still to be tapped with more traditionally deep wells?
Actually sorry I made a mistake it was 4 metres and now it has been extended to 5.
It still doesn't seem very deep, so everyone where you live has their own well? And as these are for individual parcela use, you dont need to have those wells registered? Is that correct ? If they are not, there in lies part of the problem. How many tens of thousands of these shallow wells exist in RM? You cant work out to maximize water efficiency and water use without a clue on how much water is actually being taken. Just like the shitty farm ditch irrigation canals, I've never seen any flow meters on those, maybe the new ones have them, that water should be being piped and measured , is it? Maybe if water was measured and used more efficiently there would be a clearer idea of how to deal with the issues and what's available and how much less is now available or just anything really to do with efficient water management. Anyway, off topic I guess.
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