Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by MercyMe » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:50 pm

First, why are you driving when you live in Santiago? There are several different public transport options and none of which are expensive. Secondly, should you drive on a restriction day and a "paco" pulls you over, speak in English, smile, and say No Spanish, they will look at your foreign license and let you go. It works everytime, unless you get the same "paco" twice in a row.

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by go play outside » Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:32 pm

Sure you don't need a vehicle if you live and work on handy metro lines. Many of us don't. I use motorbike and bicycle (the latter with child trailer) when viable. Often it's not an option. It also often scares the pants off me. :shock:

I also don't see the point of trying to buck the rules with this one. Not driving a few times a winter is hardly a harship and environmental disaster is a valid reason. Not lit the fire tonight either, same reason, not because I am afraid it will actually get enforced.

Ideally, people who have desk jobs will get the hang of working from home more, which would be a real positive. Interesting the restrictions seem to handily fall on a weekend again. There was ample evidence for one midweek.

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by trabajo en progreso » Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:43 pm

MercyMe wrote:First, why are you driving when you live in Santiago? There are several different public transport options and none of which are expensive.
Because to go from my house to the swimming pool would take a minimum of 2 buses (we live 6km from metro) and after a swim my children tend to fall asleep in the car. Lugging a 2yo, 4yo, swim clothes, flotation devices etc would be a freaking PITA. We caught a taxi.

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by go play outside » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:49 am

No vehicle restriction Sunday June 5, 2011

The prognostic for air quality has dropped to “Regular” (between 100 and 199 ppm).

http://foundinchile.cl/2011/06/santiago ... -5th-2011/

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by Sons of Thunder » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:30 pm

MercyMe wrote:First, why are you driving when you live in Santiago? There are several different public transport options and none of which are expensive. Secondly, should you drive on a restriction day and a "paco" pulls you over, speak in English, smile, and say No Spanish, they will look at your foreign license and let you go. It works everytime, unless you get the same "paco" twice in a row.
You question the fact that we drive, and do it within the limits of the law, and then give instructions (presumably from experience?) on how to get away with violating the restrictions? :roll:

BTW I've also been using the emol.com website ever since starting this topic. I think patagoniax was the first to recommend it. It's been spot on so far.

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by nwdiver » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:24 pm

I guess newbies find the restrictions strange but it’s been that way for over 10 years, one day during the work week you can’t dive 7-7. On supplemental days they hit up 2 more numbers and once in awhile they close Centro to vehicles. People own up to 3 cars to get around it, and its hell when you have 2 cars with the same last number. The “play dumb english person” is not to be recommended, it may get you a ride to court if they can’t take your operator’s licence, which you then go to court and after paying a fine you get it back, you don’t show up in court in a timely fashion for any reason the shit gets deeper ;) Been there and have the T shirt. Taking 20% of the vehicles off the road one day a week does something, there are 20% less cars.
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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by snocouchs » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:38 am

This conversation is completely horrifying. We might be moving to Chile, and would probably have to live near Santiago. Just the thought of having to be in that for a few hours terrifies me. I have asthma. I knew it was bad, but this puts it on a whole new level for me. Do people live to be like 60 here? Seriously.

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Post by Sons of Thunder » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:08 pm

snocouchs wrote:This conversation is completely horrifying. We might be moving to Chile (for work), and would probably have to live near Santiago. Just the thought of having to be in that for a few hours terrifies me. I have asthma. My husband is going to have to do the meetings. Joy. I knew it was bad, but this puts it on a whole new level for me. Do people live to be like 60 here? Seriously.
You better plan a visit beforehand, then. Keep in mind that an area like Las Condes has much better (comparatively) air quality, while an area like La Dehesa is even better. If you have the coin to live there, that is. :shock:

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by snocouchs » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:35 pm

We would visit first of course, just reading up.

So ----looking at travel times on google directions, how accurate would you say they are? Do I need to add 30 minutes 1 hour etc. for traffic? Say if we lived some place 1 hour outside of Santiago, how much time would I need to add to do any sort of 3 times weekly commute? Are there any communities on the train line edges that are relatively smog free?

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by snocouchs » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:12 pm

However, routinely coming over the mountains may not be your cup of tea. Very steep parts, switchbacks, not properly banked, can be hard to pass, fun in the right sort of car but requires 100 percent concentration or into the cactus and rock you go. Public transport does it all the time but it requires caution. Pacos controlling traffic at Tiltil can be strict (and expensive). Would not recommend living in the valley on the east side of that range - hot, dry, smoky, smoggy, uninteresting. Anyway, a map, with km indicated.

Px, thanks so much for all the info. Have you driven mountain roads in Costa Rica? If so, how would mountain driving in Santiago area compare? I've done a bit of that, but would not want to on a daily basis.

I can't wait to check things out. I am completely on the fence about this country. I am unsure that good weather, stable economy, fabulous nature, fresh produce, great wine - cancels out - impossible to understand spanish, horrible food, boxed milk, earthquakes, tsunamis, 112 approx. active volcanoes, leaky damp houses with wood burning heaters and world class smog.

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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by regioncentralX » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:53 pm

If you are preparing yourself for a 1.5 - 2 hour commute each work day, FYI many Chileans make the daily bus commute from the coast ($4.800-$5.200 pesos R/T in my neck of the woods + Metro/TranSantiago bus to the final destination). I recall zer0nz saying many Santiago further out cuico 'burbers pay the same or more in gas, tolls and parking per day not to mention the added benefit of road stress for the equivalent amount of commuting time.
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Re: Smog-Induced Driving Restrictions?

Post by snocouchs » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:01 am

Fortunately I did not have to drive Cerro de la Muerte. I did drive from San Jose to Nicoya to Monteverde to Arenal to San Jose. I think the worst part was my husband telling me what was off the side of the cliff. And the bridges. If you could call them that.
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