Election Constitution 2021

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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by gringalais » Mon May 17, 2021 11:52 am

Yeah, you have a point there, Britkid, she really got crushed!

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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by admin » Mon May 17, 2021 11:56 am

I have been going through the morning "autopsy reports". Everything from Goldman sach's take on it, to the FA slapping themselves on the back for the governors. The governors really don't do anything.

I think they are all misreading this badly. Most of these candidates are unknowns, even among the ones with party affiliations. Especially the independents.

This was a big F***k you to the existing parties and party political coalitions. None got more than 25% control of control of the rewrite.

That just means to get anything done, everyone is going to have compromise.

Here is an example of how misleading the winners are on paper, if you try to apply the traditional left / right boxes to read the tea leaves to determine what they are going to vote. Here are some examples profiles of who won last night:

Candidate 1) A male with red hair and blue eyes.

Candidate 2) An attorney.

Candidate 3) A young male, late 20s, Mapuche.

What do you think the political leanings are of the three above?

I'll tell you in the next post.
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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by admin » Mon May 17, 2021 11:59 am

It is the same person.

A former law student of my wife.

He is a late 20's male, attorney, mother was mapuche, but he did not run as a indigenous under the reserve, and has red hair, blue eyes, and pretty pale skin. What is his political affiliation / leanings?

Center Right.
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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by fraggle092 » Mon May 17, 2021 12:00 pm

Anything that this clown approves of cannot be right:
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Maduro celebra elecciones en Chile hubo rechazo al neoliberalismo salvaje .png
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https://www.24horas.cl/elecciones-2021/ ... on-4783552

Chilezuela sobre rieles.
Bienvenidos a Chaqueteo City.

Après moi, le déluge

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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by admin » Mon May 17, 2021 12:03 pm

gringalais wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:47 am
I'm not sure how much of a surprise reality show Barbie (Cathy Barriga) losing was, with all the scandals she has had!
Everyone has reviewed her "qualifications", and she did not have much more to add to her resume. :lol:
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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by admin » Mon May 17, 2021 12:04 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 12:00 pm
Anything that this clown approves of cannot be right:
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Maduro celebra elecciones en Chile hubo rechazo al neoliberalismo salvaje .png
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https://www.24horas.cl/elecciones-2021/ ... on-4783552

Chilezuela sobre rieles.
Leave it to Maburro to think he won anything.
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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by Britkid » Mon May 17, 2021 12:53 pm

Can anyone explain this to me? Why was Claudia Castro elected in district 14?
Chile Vamos gets 1 candidate, makes sense.
But why the candidate with the least votes??

XP. VAMOS POR CHILE 51.698 17,06%

4. CLAUDIA MABEL CASTRO GUTIERREZ (M) IND-UDI 3.768 1,24% **
5. JAIME COLOMA ALAMOS (H) UDI 19.009 6,27%
6. ANDREA ROSARIO IÑIGUEZ MANSO (M) REPUBL. 5.142 1,70%
7. CRISTOBAL ORREGO SANCHEZ (H) REPUBL. 9.456 3,12%
8. KARINA TORRES FUENTES (M) RN 7.895 2,61%
9. ENRIQUE CAMPINO LARRAIN (H) IND-RN 6.428 2,12%

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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by admin » Mon May 17, 2021 1:07 pm

so, participation numbers,

6.458.760 votes, or 43% of the people eligible to vote.


better than an average none-presidential election, but less than the last vote to rewrite the constitution.
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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by admin » Mon May 17, 2021 1:17 pm

So Chile Vamos, center right or whatever you want to call them, has 37 people. They need about 15 additional people to veto / block an amendment. Now, that sounds like a lot, but it is a lot less than the left would need to pass one.

I think finding 15 sympathetic more right leaning people among the independents and fuzzy center left, might be possible. At least when they are really serious about something. Of course, probably going to require some horse trading. I just don't see the far left being able to keep everyone corralled to their side of the stable for any really crazy crap.

I think at the end of the day, we are going to end up with a draft that is not all that different from the current constitution; if not exactly the same constitution (i.e. voters reject it).
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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by admin » Mon May 17, 2021 1:29 pm

The international media is just falling all over themselves trying to make sense out of this.

Sometimes with some really bizarre interpretations of what it means. Like the Pinera administration will not be able to block constitutional amendments they don't like. The current administration was never really part of this, and will be long gone by the time this is over.

Other headlines are claiming the communist party swept the election. WTF?

Others that "independents" swept the election, which although they had a good showing, are hardly a "political party". It is just a bunch of unaffiliated people.

This should continue to be entertaining.
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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by Space Cat » Mon May 17, 2021 1:47 pm

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Re: Election Constitution 2021

Post by Space Cat » Mon May 17, 2021 1:51 pm

Here's how far off was one of the forecasts, by La Tercera (blue for the forecasted, orange for the yesterday's results):

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