Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

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Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

Post by fraggle092 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:28 pm

In the latest scandal, Carabineros are accusing elements within the Fiscalía of leaking information in advance of an antiterrorist initiative, Operación Huracán, directly to the individuals involved. Its an extremely murky affair with accusations flying back and forwards between the LEAs up to the highest levels of government.

The accusations are based on the "hacking" activities of one individual, Alex Smith, who apparently developed a keylogger application that stored and forwarded IM texts, and possibly voice messages as well, which he delivered to certain cellphones like a virus.
En Carabineros se le llama “el profesor”. Es el apodo con que personal de inteligencia de Temuco se refiere a Alex Smith Leay, el ingeniero agrícola y forestal -estudió en forma paralela ambas carreras en diurno y vespertino en Inacap-, quien asegura que diseñó y desarrolló el software -que llama “Antorcha”- que supuestamente intercepta conversaciones de WhatsApp y Telegram, cuya legitimidad puso en jaque la Operación Huracán.
La Fiscalía ya dispone la información de que a mediados del año pasado a Smith le habrían solicitado crear un software para interceptar celulares y poder determinar quiénes estaban detrás de los atentados en La Araucanía.

En Carabineros, en tanto, sostienen que existe una aplicación similar que ocupa la inteligencia de Israel, pero que adquirirla sería demasiado costosa. El ingeniero -defienden- la hizo gratis y demoró un mes
Carabineros unconditionally back the information obtained by this application despite it being unverified by any outside agency. Not only does the whole episode show an amazing degree of improvisation and technical naivety within the LEAS it also shows how little they respect privacy. However, given this government's even-more-than-ususally incompetent handling of the Mapuche situation, Carabineros may have had good reasons for their suspicions. But the end doesn't always justify the means. (Removed accusation of illegality, they did this under a judicial order)

Good resume and more details here.
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Re: Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

Post by admin » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:15 am

You are way late to that scandal.

The carbinerios involved in the investigation were arrested for planting evidence to frame the prosecutors.

The president cancelled the vacation of the head of carbinerios that was in miami with his family, and called him back to chile.

Stay tuned.

So far i have not seen a motive.
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Re: Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

Post by fraggle092 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:37 am

admin wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:15 am
You are way late to that scandal.

The carbinerios involved in the investigation were arrested for planting evidence to frame the prosecutors.

The president cancelled the vacation of the head of carbinerios that was in miami with his family, and called him back to chile.

Stay tuned.

So far i have not seen a motive.
This is still front page news in a scandal that will run and run.
Nobody has been arrested, rather there are investigaciones penales going on in Carabineros for adulteration or falsification of evidence.
Entre ellos el especialista a cargo del software para capturar mensajes, Alex Smith. Y también el jefe de la Unidad de Inteligencia Operativa Especializada, Patricio Marín. Se explicó que estos interrogatorios involucran a otras personas, ampliando las pesquisas.
http://diario.elmercurio.com/2018/02/05 ... 97DBB3.htm

A can of worms that will get kicked down the road for Piñera's administration to deal with. As for motives, they come from further up the food chain, from sympathisers with extremist Mapuche territorial revindication aims within the present administration. I think that Carabineros know that these sympathisers are passing intelligence information on police initiatives in the area, but they went about trying to prove that in the wrong way.

Here is the opinion of landowners in the area on eventual Mapuche extremist aims:
http://diario.elmercurio.com/2018/02/05 ... F1B277.htm
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Re: Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

Post by fraggle092 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:49 am

And on it goes.
Turns out that the Interior Minister, Mahmud Aleuy, didnt know that Villalobos, the Director General of Carabineros was on vacation in Miami until he read about in in the press.

http://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/2 ... blico.html

And Carabineros has formally requested that the FBI revise the evidence obtained from "Antorcha", the homegrown spyware app.

http://www.latercera.com/nacional/notic ... can/58566/
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Re: Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

Post by frozen-north » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:45 am

fraggle092 wrote:
The accusations are based on the "hacking" activities of one individual, Alex Smith, who apparently developed a keylogger application that stored and forwarded IM texts, and possibly voice messages as well, which he delivered to certain cellphones like a virus.
Alex Smith, ‘el profesor’. I think it will be interesting to see what else comes out about this 'expert'. From artificial insemination to forensic analysis of digital information. Really?


Operación Huracán: El particular perfil del asesor de inteligencia de Carabineros

Manejo y Manipulación de Carnes y Técnicas de Inseminación Artificial

análisis forense en distintos sistemas operativos


http://radio.uchile.cl/2018/01/30/opera ... rabineros/

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Re: Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

Post by fraggle092 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:46 pm

frozen-north wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:45 am

Alex Smith, ‘el profesor’. I think it will be interesting to see what else comes out about this 'expert'. From artificial insemination to forensic analysis of digital information. Really?
Whenever some unusually advanced tech news appears in the local press, it tends to turn out to be chamullo.
Like Arturito, the treasure detecting robot

Or the SOFOFA spy case.

This could be more of the same.
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Post by admin » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:02 pm

Bet he spent 30 seconds googling and found some script-kiddies hack.

I am sure it seems like magic to the guys in the goverment that are paying him.
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Post by admin » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:36 pm

A new 24 page report ripping apart the claims this "hacker" was making.

Short article about highlights
https://www.fayerwayer.com/2018/02/oper ... picks=true

Pdf in spanish, but a good read.

https://media.betazeta.com/fayerwayer/2 ... uracan.pdf
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Post by David_Bro » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:54 pm

Chile, up to the 70’s was a land of a man could do and could not do——harbored by geography, an island nation glued to South America, it has always been isolated from its own continent as well as the rest of the world. A shoestring republi6 oc with the Andean wall to the east the frigid antarctic to the south, the voluminous pacific to her west and the unforgiving atacama desert to the north. Thin and so narrow Chile had no where to go———From the beginning of spanish rule destined to be a class society with really only the rules within herself to govern and move forward. The Pinochet regime was just the final end to that rule and he did it well while breaking Chile out from the island she was by creating and making the beginning of an economic freedom, good or bad, with Chilean industry available on the international market——It was only time that the international market would come to Chile as well——not only in the way of products and credit cards but also the way things are done worldwide and again, the good with the bad.

I remember in the 80’s when stores began to stock frozen foods and at a much higher price than fresh——Why would you buy frozen corn at twice the price but then it was available out of season——no one really bought it because consumers would just wait until the season to buy what was normally only available for that product in it’s time——grapes, corn, beet, whatever——but then you can have it and so the culture changed and you could have raspberries in full winter. It used to be in Chile that you sent telegrams and you had to go to the phone exchange to make a call or the post office to find out what was going on with family——now cell phone use, per capita, is double what it is in the rest of latin america in Chile.——I remember one time in the market just after Christmas and before new years about 5 or 6 years ago, a group of 6 or 7 thirty somethings in line ahead of me at checkout——they had the meager start of items for a party and none of them had enough cash or credit to buy what they had layed out so they each put their cards in to pay for it all——It was about 14 luca total but they were all maxed out on what they had.

What I am saying is that, regardless of the cordillera, the cold south, the vast pacific and the dry north, Chile is simply absorbing the rest of the world and especially the typical chaos that the rest of latin america has known for so long——the corruption, bureaucracy, disloyalty, political turmoil, indigenous disparity, financial uncertainty, legal inequality and the general unknown that Chileans have always known——no it just has an accent and flair from far beyond what Chile has known before——its not to say Chile has not known trouble but its always been a Chilean trouble she could completely understand——it might have been sour grapes but they were Chilean grapes——now, not so much.

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Re: Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

Post by tiagoabner » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:30 pm

OMG, the guy is either a scapegoat or a really bad liar. This is the first time I went to read about this case and I'm still laughing at the "Send an email to a telephone number" part.

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Post by admin » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:00 am

tiagoabner wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:30 pm
OMG, the guy is either a scapegoat or a really bad liar. This is the first time I went to read about this case and I'm still laughing at the "Send an email to a telephone number" part.
Na, he had me rolling at building access databases. Which is pretty much marks him as the typical Chilean "IT guy".

I once spoke to a "IT expert" that was a student at a technical school, in Temuco by chance, that was impressed I was building web sites with Mysql. Not because I was using Mysql databases, but they did not teach how to build web sites until the 4th year. I have seen university of Chile "computer science" graduates use access and asp, for all kinds of things you really should not use access or ASP (not sure there is ever a good reason). Never mind anything more complicated, like facebook is not the internet. Most are lucky they found the power button on their own computer.

I never really followed the case either. I seen a line go by in the newspaper that someone was claiming to have hacked whatsapp in Chile, and the first thing that popped in to my mind he probably just got a key-logger installed on someone's phone. When the transcripts came out, of the alleged conversations they were recording, long before it turned out the carbinerios were trying to frame the prosecutors, I knew something was up. They had text from whatsapp conversation, but no audio. If you had really breached a whatsapp account, why would you not be able to capture the audio? yep, the next paragraph, the reporter, probably not understanding what the guy said, mentioned something about a key-logging software he used to hack whatsapp.

That pretty much ended my interest in the whole case, until this document. I figured either the reporters were morons and where totally not understanding what the guy was saying, so no point in trying to pick apart the gibberish they were printing; or the guy was full of shit. Guess it with was the later, even if he managed to impress the former.

The real scandal here, and I don't think anyone in the government is going to get this, is that some newbie computer amateur, was payed government representative, and given the authority to attack targets under court order. I mean I use to joke that you don't have to worry about your privacy in Chile because the incompetence of the hackers and IT, but I never really thought they were that naive to hire someone so unqualified for the job. The NSA, FBI, FSB, this is not. It puts in to total question the quality and chain of evidence of every single case involving digital devices and data, ever brought in Chile.
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Re: Dirty Tricks - Operación Huracán

Post by fraggle092 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:30 pm

admin wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:00 am
It puts in to total question the quality and chain of evidence of every single case involving digital devices and data, ever brought in Chile.
Given the arbitrary nature of Chile Time ( change the DST transition dates almost every year on a whim) any timestamped evidence is open to question. A lot of people keep their system clocks on Buenos Aires time.
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