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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by nwdiver » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:04 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
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Looks huge. Would Valpo have been somehow better?
No, Valpo has no space for this not to mention the expansion of rail and cargo truck routes in and out. It was always a decision of logic vs. traditional vote/political influence despite San Antonio for years being the most important cargo port of Chile.
Valpo can't have any expansion in the port area, unless the Navy wants to lease it's base, San Anto is the logical choice and then they can close the Valpo port...........
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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:11 pm

But Valpo is being a sore loser and they say they will run crying to Piñera to change the decision.

Portuarios de San Antonio defenderán el megapuerto ante el reclamo de Valpo
http://www.lidersanantonio.cl/impresa/2 ... l/5/texto/
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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by nwdiver » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:13 pm

Valpo doesn't have the space, I've seen the plans, it would never work, I think they will cry the blues so they get something else....
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Post by nwdiver » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:15 pm

Also it will tie up the waterfront for the 10-15 year build out, Valpo can't afford that.....
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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:20 pm

Thinking more about Bachelet and why finally now, this announcement occurred in conjunction with the new hospital for San Antonio (again perpetually on hold and delayed since Piñera and of course through the years of the outgoing Bachelet admin and also a new consultorio for Llolleo which would make it one of the best in the region. It's like why is San Antonio, Valpo's backyard, getting such attention all of a sudden from the gov? Yep, because this is one of the few munis in the area where Gullier won!
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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by at46 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:28 pm

Valpo/Vina/Concon get enough ship exhaust already. I can't imagine what it would have been like with the megaport here.

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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by Space Cat » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:34 pm

frozen-north wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:31 pm
And you suggest that replacing the NM with Piñera was a good move?
Eh, Gamba is a trash journalism. Not the best possible move but the investment money flow should compensate the new government's flaws. The other one would be also horribly corrupt but no money + populist public spending.

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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by frozen-north » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:14 pm

Space Cat wrote:
Eh, Gamba is a trash journalism. Not the best possible move but the investment money flow should compensate the new government's flaws. The other one would be also horribly corrupt but no money + populist public spending.
Trash or not trash. Which one is wrong on the list by Gamba???

The investment money? The devil is in the details. Where will be the money going, and who will actually benefit of any investments, are things that have to be looked at carefully. A major project that leaves massive environmental damage might not be the best long term option. Think of the 'Canadian' mining operations in Central-America.

If you would rather have a different list, how about the Diario Uchile, of the Radio Universidad de Chile:


La Lista de la (Des) Vergüenza de Piñera

http://radio.uchile.cl/2017/11/14/la-li ... de-pinera/

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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by at46 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:16 pm

frozen-north wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:14 pm
A major project that leaves massive environmental damage might not be the best long term option. Think of the 'Canadian' mining operations in Central-America.
Or the Canadian mining operation in Kyrgyzstan http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 88735.html

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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by Space Cat » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:31 pm

frozen-north wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:14 pm
Trash or not trash. Which one is wrong on the list by Gamba???

The investment money? The devil is in the details. Where will be the money going, and who will actually benefit of any investments, are things that have to be looked at carefully. A major project that leaves massive environmental damage might not be the best long term option. Think of the 'Canadian' mining operations in Central-America.

If you would rather have a different list, how about the Diario Uchile, of the Radio Universidad de Chile
Thanks for a better list, I don't want to fact-check every Gamba's statement.

The investment money will spill out of their friendly corrupted circles and benefit the country. I doubt they can do much damage outside of already screwed up northern mining pollution because solar/wind is on the rise and Patagonia dams were cancelled. Probably we'll need to protest new salmoneras in the south. Let's wait and see.

Anyway, hopefully they'll have only 4 years too.

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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by Maker42 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:48 am

Pinera 1.0 allowed the USA to establish a military base on Concon in 2011. Does anybody know if it's still there?

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Re: The Pinera administration 2.0

Post by admin » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:56 pm

Well we got the u.s. lecturing latin america about the dangers of china.

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