2017 election round two: will you vote?

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will you vote in the second round?

Poll ended at Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:54 am

Voted in the first round, will vote in the second.
6
46%
Voted first round, not voting second
1
8%
Did not vote in the first, but will vote in the second.
5
38%
Qualify to vote, but don't
1
8%
 
Total votes: 13

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2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by admin » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:54 am

Thought it would be interesting to see, if more or less foriegners that qualify to vote were going to vote in the second round presidential elections on the 17th of december.
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:37 am

For the vote haters, just go for the experience, you can always cast a null ballot.
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by fraggle092 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:44 am

As voting is during the pre-Christmas consumer frenzy, I think the turnout will be even lower this time round.
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by hlf2888 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:45 am

what date is the second round?
What are the major differences between the 2 runoff parties in a nutshell?

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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by fraggle092 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:47 am

A week from today, 17 Dec.
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by Gloria » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:19 am

I'll be voting also.
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by admin » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:04 pm

Two interesting looks at the data sets as they stand now regarding the importance of 10 geographic areas of chile, and the new voters and how they voted in the first round.

http://www.latercera.com/noticia/las-di ... sidencial/

http://www.latercera.com/noticia/big-da ... z-sanchez/
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by admin » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:16 pm

I think in the first round the media was being overlly optimistic about pineras chance of winning outright.

Now i think they are being too pesimistic and conservative about his lead.

What was interesting about the above data is that sanchez won with more votes in areas where her party congress members of FA won. In other words people went out vot for sanchez specifaclly in the first round, not her party; and, criticaly, they were largly young first time voters.

Guillier has to hold the center left, and convince those young first time voters that voted for sanchez in the first round to come out and vote for him. That is a very tall order, especially with the wishy washy endorsements he is getting from the far left.

Right now, my sense is he loosing the far left, and the center left is defecting to vote for pinera, even if they dont like him; they dislike bachelet's administration even less.
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by Gloria » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:30 pm

admin wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:16 pm
......is defecting to vote for pinera, even if they dont like him; they dislike bachelet's administration even less.
I'm not from the left or the right and tired of socialism, so I have no choice other than voting for Mickey Mouse.
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by hlf2888 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:02 pm

The US election could have been summed up as follows.
Candidate 1 xenophobic, racist, chauvinistic, appealing to the frightened white race who see their country changing color. Pretends to be anti-corporation to get elected.
Candidate 2 inclusive, appealing to those who call themselves liberal, secretly backed by the war machine. Pretends to be on the side of the poor to get elected.
Candidate 3 Not a chance, no corporate backing.

Both major parties just puppets for the puppet-masters, the corporations.

So how would you sum up the 2 candidates here?

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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by admin » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:53 pm

The bachelet administration has been helping guillier both directly and indirectly. They deny it, but it is pretty obvious who they support.

So a couple of weeks ago pinera starts crying fowl about them using goverment resources to support guillier.

I thought that was kind of stupid waist of time.

Now i see what they are up to. Every time pinera or chile vamos calls fowl, they get to associate guiller with bachelet. Now it seems to be sticking. People might be pretty indiffrent to the canidates, but they are overwelmingly pissed at the bachelet administration.

So the election has come down to an anti-pinera vote vs. An anti-bachelet vote.
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Re: 2017 election round two: will you vote?

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:11 pm

IMO.

As we are in the USA's backyard, following certain dictates while the US dollar still reigns supreme and many targets inside the country can be attacked wether via false flags, economic hitman, hacking, to even sudden "health" related deaths and suicides, etc. being a given, then from that perspective we are screwed either way until the stool legs of the Empire break.

So Chile needs a leader that can balance this reality (OECD and US economic and military related thingys) and still keep the door open to BRICs, One Belt One Road extension initiatives to South America and the alternative banking structures related to it.

Guillier will be a continuation of Bachelet's policies. We know Bachie is totally sold out and with the Soros and formerly and potentially still powerful Clintons and their UN types. And we have concluded the open borders policy order to PDI and Extranjeria could only have come from her. As far as domestic economic policy, others here have explained things much better than I ever could not to mention the wild expansion of public and pseudo-public workers and others nourishing themselves from the public teat who will be forever grateful to their benefactor's "side".

Piñera, there is "hope" (maybe false) that a more rational immigration policy can be worked out and implemented and bad domestic policies can be modified or reversed not to mention the usual housecleaning of the public sector with such a change. At a minimum, a temporary pause to the chaos that is coming?

And I am still impressed by Chile's paper ballot system and public scrutiny at every step. Just that fact alone broke my vow to reject national election voting (in my country of birth) since 2000.
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