2017 election: Will you vote?

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Will you vote in the 2017 presidential election?

Yes
6
67%
No
3
33%
Perhaps
0
No votes
Did not know I could vote
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 9

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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by fraggle092 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:13 pm

at46 wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:58 pm
Chile has only studiously adopted what has been tried and proven true in places like Canada where it's been government policy for decades.
I think most of the Western nations have belatedly realized that the mass importation of foreigners is resented by the locals, who have reacted in unpredictable ways.

Chileans are great copiones, so perhaps Bachelet thought a humanitarian gesture a la Angela Merkel would look good on the world stage, especially since at that time she was touting for UN employment in NY after her current term finishes. (as I predicted she would, over a year ago on this forum.)

That, as well as building up a pool of potential voters out the "disadvantaged" migrants she allowed in. A "win-win" scenario for her and the Socialists, not so good for the rest of us.
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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by admin » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:22 pm

Funny i was just having the same thought while watching a tvn special about all the homeless chilean families still living in illegal camps around the coutry. I wonder how many of those chileans could have had houses for the (official) 1.3 million dollars spent on bringing those syrian families to chile. I am pretty certain (unofficially) they spent way more than 1.3 million.

Never mind the haitiens, venezuelans, etc that now (officially) qualify for goverment housing subsidy (or will shortly).

Did i mention the there is housing shortage in chile of over half a million houses. I wonder (officially) what caused that?
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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by nikotromus » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:12 pm

Sure doesn't feel like a housing shortage with the houses I've seen in Chile. Month after month goes by and they never seem to sell - or the realtors are just lazy and never take the adds down.

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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by Julito » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:19 pm

It's a combination of many things. The official stats are meaningless, many many homes are undocumented, so officially they don't exist. There's no communication between the local municipalidad and say the electricity company. If you want power connected to a block of land the electricity company'll come out, install a meter and away you go, buIld, move in and get on with life.

In our condo until a couple of years ago, most of the houses, substantial homes at that, had never been documented so to be sold it had to be a cash buyer on a handshake, ie. with no actual proof of ownership. It's since been tidied up

When we arrived 4 years ago and went house shopping some of the real estate agents didn't have a single fully documented home in their listings. They'd assure us full documentation could be "quickly organised" which of course is complete crap, regardless our insistence not to waste our time looking at undocumented homes.

In the end we mulled over three in our price range, settled on one, the "worst house best street" scenario and with the relatively cheap improvements done to the property it's more than doubled in value since. As always anywhere in the world, location, location, location.

Anyway I'm dribbling on....

Ryan if you're looking at buying a house just make sure it's fully documented. And don't be tempted to build from scratch, it'll cost you twice as much and take twice as long as the builder claims it will, regardless their so called "reputation". Over promising and under delivering is the absolute norm in Chilean culture.

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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by nikotromus » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:37 pm

Interesting. Everything I've been told so far in Chile is to build from scratch and skip buying anything in the market because everything is so overpriced. I see their point, because they take a dump in a field here, call it a house and put a price tag of 400k on it.

Good to hear a different perspective.

I never wanted to build in the States because it was such a hassle. I couldn't imagine the kind of hassle involved with building here with everything I've heard about these fine Chilean maestros.

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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by Julito » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:33 pm

The property we bought was very obviously over priced but the owner, a Vina doctor and a good bloke, was willing to negotiate and we got it for roughly 20% under the listed price. It'd been on the market for 3 years and the agent was onside with us. Perhaps we were lucky.but the vendor wanted to sell to do another build.
If you never wanted to build in the States because it was such a hassle, absolutely do not build in Chile, it'll drive you batshit, it's like trying to herd cats. It's better to find a house with good bones in a location with potential and improve on its livability.

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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by Julito » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:35 pm

Anyway we're way off thread here... pm

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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by admin » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:59 am

Hey, head's up, regardless if you are voting or not. The election is on Sunday, and that means everything that is none-essential will be closed.

Among other things, that means no alcohol sales and transport of fire arms or explosive anywhere in the country, even with a full license to do so, is suspended.
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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by admin » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:44 pm

o.k., sunday is the election.

Here are the list of things that will get you arrested or fined:
http://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/naci ... ones.shtml

Most are pretty common sense, like don't show up drunk, don't disrupt the voting process, etc.

One that seems to get a lot of people a fine every year, is taking photos of the ballot. I know everyone is all selfie crazy these days, but don't take one of your vote.
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Re: 2017 election: Will you vote?

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:32 pm

Just wanted to pass this info along for the future:

If you are a vocal, you are supposed to receive a certificate via mail. For some reason, my wife's (in Santiago) never arrived. You are supposed to report the day before (today) for orientation. If you fail to report, it is a 300.000 multa.
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