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Re: How to read a forum

Post by zer0nz » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:29 am

john wrote:
zer0nz wrote:
Afterburner wrote:
nwdiver wrote:Ok I'll bite what was that 13,000,000 people reference about? I asked but never got an answer. Maybe I shouldn’t have also said we only hear from you when you have a new blog entry to promote.
A pre-googling estimate of the population of Chile?
that starts to make sense,

He is actually wrong, there alot (a lot) of chileans who despise how Chile is as a whole...

He obviously has not worked ina (in a) middle class office in santiago.....

every day they call there (their) own people dogs!

Ever night when there (their) power is cut because some pobre wants something for free,

Every day they have to replace a tyre in there (their)car because someone thought blocking a road because they want someting for free was a good idea,

every time they have to take the long way home because a road is cut,

And damn, the people my age, they are absolutly shocked about the "en toma" of the schools, they had less when they want (went) to school than half the schools who (that) are in toma had, they dont understand why they are en toma
It seems you know how to hyphenate, or not ... other grammar, not so much. :wink:

haha, thanks!, failed english in school, then add two languages in my head with two sets of rules = double fail!

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by California South » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:40 am

haha, thanks!, failed english in school, then add two languages in my head with two sets of rules = double fail
That's pretty cool how you can laugh at yourself. Many would be defensive and lash out.

Over 2 decades I've worked with quite a number of engineers and IT analysts, most of whom could not spell worth a damn but it didn't negate their smarts in the least.
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Re: How to read a forum

Post by john » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:00 am

zer0nz wrote:
john wrote:
zer0nz wrote:
Afterburner wrote:
nwdiver wrote:Ok I'll bite what was that 13,000,000 people reference about? I asked but never got an answer. Maybe I shouldn’t have also said we only hear from you when you have a new blog entry to promote.
A pre-googling estimate of the population of Chile?
that starts to make sense,

He is actually wrong, there alot (a lot) of chileans who despise how Chile is as a whole...

He obviously has not worked ina (in a) middle class office in santiago.....

every day they call there (their) own people dogs!

Ever night when there (their) power is cut because some pobre wants something for free,

Every day they have to replace a tyre in there (their)car because someone thought blocking a road because they want someting for free was a good idea,

every time they have to take the long way home because a road is cut,

And damn, the people my age, they are absolutly shocked about the "en toma" of the schools, they had less when they want (went) to school than half the schools who (that) are in toma had, they dont understand why they are en toma
It seems you know how to hyphenate, or not ... other grammar, not so much. :wink:

haha, thanks!, failed english in school, then add two languages in my head with two sets of rules = double fail!
No offence intended! You are to be commended on learning two languages!
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Re: How to read a forum

Post by rachelmarama » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:35 am

zer0nz wrote:He is actually wrong, there alot of chileans who despise how chile is as a whole...
2nd that, with many Chileans I know.... my partner for example is WAY more scathing about Chile and Chilenos than px has been

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by JHyre » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:58 am

zer0nz wrote:He is actually wrong, there alot of chileans who despise how chile is as a whole...2nd that, with many Chileans I know.... my partner for example is WAY more scathing about Chile and Chilenos than px has been
That's a fact, I've noticed it as well.

But it's OK. In a smellier more run-down version of Gringo Imperialism, you can have some sensitive northern hippie types come on down and re-educate us all as to how hateful such views are. And if you disagree, why, they'll cry, call you nasty names, leave the site, return to the site, perhaps leave again, cry a lot more, and throw out more terms like "bigot" and "bully" to mask an inability to take what they dish out.

I've always liked the lack of PC in Chileans. As long as you show basic manners, you can have a much more open & frank discussion with them than is often possible in the Speech Code environment so loved by the Usual Suspects. Well, at least until you mention the CIA....if they were capable of a tenth of what Chileans credit them with, I'd be one happy gringo imperialist running dog lackey of <insert something bad>.

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by Ripsigg » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:42 am

I've lost a lot of respect in the last day for many of the formerly respected posters. I'm far from a hippy. I've just been around and know that it is better to respect those around you and the places that you go.

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by Afterburner » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:02 pm

Ripsigg wrote:I've lost a lot of respect in the last day for many of the formerly respected posters. I'm far from a hippy. I've just been around and know that it is better to respect those around you and the places that you go.

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay at home." - James Michener

"When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." - Clifton Fadiman
+ 1. It has nothing at all to do with p c. I dislike p c myself.

Let's see the p c defence should we choose to categorise some other protected group in ethnic or racist terms.

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by JHyre » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:50 pm

Px,

I like the Twain quotes, he was a genius. So as far as Twainesque satire goes, I get it. I think you need to work on it a bit more. A one-time witty jab is one thing. Hammering the same point incessently is quite another. His deft handling of a verbal rapier and your repeated assaults with a 30 pound mace are not quite the same thing.

Admittedly, morays have changed, and for the worse. Much of what Twain (not to mention, say, HL Mencken) said would draw condemnation in our Brave New World full of oh-so-sensitive people.

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by martagill » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:14 pm

JHyre wrote:Px,

I like the Twain quotes, he was a genius. So as far as Twainesque satire goes, I get it. I think you need to work on it a bit more. A one-time witty jab is one thing. Hammering the same point incessently is quite another. His deft handling of a verbal rapier and your repeated assaults with a 30 pound mace are not quite the same thing.

Admittedly, morays have changed, and for the worse. Much of what Twain (not to mention, say, HL Mencken) said would draw condemnation in our Brave New World full of oh-so-sensitive people.

John Hyre
Eggxactly! However, in Px's defense, after being severely bludgeoned all week long, perhaps he may need to step back and regain his accustomed composure so he can renew his more witty observations... 8)

And I would like to comment on the Chilean food which Px is so fond (not!) of. Well prepared Chilean food is fantastic. You just may not get to taste it at all and sundry restaurants, which can be very hit and miss, lacking in creativity, and expensive to boot many times for very substandard fare, even "good" restaurants. Santiago has a much better offer in this regard. It's about the lack of proper compensation to the chefs for one thing and the whole way of the owners mismanaging their staff in general. Son muy negreros, which does not generally make for very motivated employees. La Cocina Chilean Criolla is knock your socks off good. So, that's my two cents. But I have been very disappointed on many an occasion in eating out in Chile. Very inconsistent fare in general, even the good restaurants. That's not to say that there aren't fantastic restaurants all over Chile. But I don't expect to walk into a hole in the wall in Chile and eat something wonderful. That's usually not going to happen, unless you get very lucky.

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by JHyre » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:26 pm

Px,

If one reads Twain, for example, the jabs, while (in)famous, were comparatively modest portions of a much greater and more descriptive body of work. I would not agree that the particular items you have quoted properly represent the full context and body of what those greats wrote. Rather, they represent a skewed sample and a flawed justification of far greater use of such statements on your part than is helpful. A witty barb here & again is one thing. A constant barrage of the same is a different thing entirely. I think your style is overdone and tends to detract from the overall message, witness the recently flying fur. That's a shame, because you tend to get things right most of the time....only for it to be lost in the subsequent & predictable howling over the barbed barrage. Some people you will never make happy (e.g. - uber-sensitive leftie types), nor should reasonable people bother to try. But I think your approach throws out a lot of baby with the bathwater.

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by JHyre » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:52 pm

Well, alrighty then. We ain't gonna agree. Not the first time, won't be the last. I'd say have fun, but you obviously are doing exactly that.

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Re: How to read a forum

Post by john » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:56 pm

patagoniax wrote:
JHyre wrote:Well, alrighty then. We ain't gonna agree. Not the first time, won't be the last. I'd say have fun, but you obviously are doing exactly that.
Good insight. It is great theatre, and I enjoy every bit of it. Might even be blamed for a bit of Schadenfreude in all of this, as well.

Interesting observation: the Left/Progressive/Anarchist side characteristically employs outrageous and vulgar exhibitionism to draw attention and outrage, and we have come to expect it of them. Yet when anyone not in their club attempts even a shadow of the same, they.... just..... can't..... handle it.
A Progressive's response: Outrageous exhibitionism, frequently ... vulgar exhibitionism, occasionally ... but neither forms of exhibitionism are employed to be hurtful or demeaning, nor are they bigoted in tone.

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