The warmest people in Chile are Expats

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by angpc » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:27 pm

I agree that Chileans are stand-offish - I have always attributed that to several decades ago, under Pinochet, you were just not free to strike up a conversation, nor reveal your thoughts on politics and related matters. Society was very divided at that time, there were curfews and people just shut up - that has been passed along since.

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by momof3 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:33 pm

I guess I should look to the next generation who has spent the year protesting as the one that will wave, smile, greet etc. since they were not afraid to express themselves for the cameras.
We agree to disagree.

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by Stoph » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:41 pm

The original post was correct, Chileans are stand-offish and will skin you alive. All the gas you're blowing at him is just your own insecurities that he just may be correct and might have made a better decision than yourselves -- yes, in just 2 weeks. Or isn't my 2 1/2 yrs in Chile enough time to draw a conclusion that differs from yours? It annoys me how some people on this forum feel threatened by any comment that doesn't exalt Chile or their own decisions to be here. Quit attacking - the original post was thoughtful and kind and - in my opinion - based on reality.

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by Vicki and Greg Lansen » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:53 pm

I wholeheartedly disagree Stoff. At first I thought my opinion that Chileans were warm, though a bit standoffish at first, was based upon my experiences in Patagonia. But in retrospect, I recall my experiences in Santiago, Temuco, Puerto Montt and Valdivia, and I can say that people all over Chile are warm and inviting.

People in Chile do not tend to run up and offer assistance to hapless travelers unless asked by the hap. They do not tend to interject themselves as Costa Ricans and Panamanians often do, but they are truly warm and helpful.

You are just as likely, or more so, to be shunned, ignored or robbed in Tampa, Florida, or Newark, New Jersey. NO, that is incorrect...you are MORE LIKELY to be all those things in the US.

I came in contact with con-artists in Santiago on my first visit. But I also on that visit and others, came to know warm, helpful folks who - for no money or recipricity - gave me help, tips, and rides. Call me a simpleton, but unfriendly, snobbish and snide folks exist all over the world.

Here's an example of how it exists everywhere...my darlin guy just came back from "the states". While there he was injured and had a bad head gash. He stumbled into a service station to asked to use a phone. He was refused. There was a pay phone two blocks away he could use....he was told. No one asked if he was alright, if he needed help, or what happened. Not a single person asked if they could help.

Rotten attitudes and selfish people exist everywhere in the world. Ex-pats in Chile, at least the ones I meet are wonderful. But so are the Chileans.

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by rachelmarama » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:16 pm

I wonder if this is another one of those topics that does depend on where in Chile you are. Stoph, if I recall correctly, is in Antofagasta. So am I. I am continually told by Chileans from the south how cold, distant, rude and dishonest the people in the North are, but here I've found some really lovely, helpful chileans, and some really nasty, cold and standoffish ones. And the ones who seem to make it their mission to run me or anyone else over when we (pedestrians) HAVE A GREEN LIGHT TO CROSS THE ROAD.
i'm really looking forward to going south at some stage because people (Chileans) tell me the people are so much nicer down there, not to mention the scenery.

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by Vicki and Greg Lansen » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:19 am

Oh, I would guess that place, length of time, attitude and expectation all figure into your impressions of anywhere you visit. As far as PX's assertion that people in the south are "not very bright"s, HEY! I represent that fact!

In my short 11 years of wanderings, I have found that the highest concentration of nice folks are the people in the countryside. The ones who live close to the earth, work hard and have little. Not that wealthy, priviledged people don't regularly invite travelers to dine with them, offer rides and accomodations...cause that happens all the time too.

(Sorry, couldn't find spell-check feature)

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by La_Tini » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:09 am

I think this generalization of Southern friendliness is somehow a myth. Chileans tend to have a rather romantic view of Southern Chile. As someone stated before, I found the "friendliness level" to be related to the fact if you´re in the countryside or bigger towns. Some of the friendliest people I have met in Chile were in rural areas like Curicó or Chiloé, but if you for example compare people in Santiago and people in the more Southern Concepción, I find Santiaguinos to be much more open and welcoming...

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by La_Tini » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:47 pm

Curicó isn't south. It isn't "south" until you get on the Antarctic side of Lago General Carrera.
I know and if you had read my post more carefully you would have noticed that precisely I didn´t put it as an example for southern friendliness but for rural friendliness in Chile:) I have met nice people all over Chile, but in Curicó they stroke me extremely friendly, maybe the friendliest people I have met anywhere here. This summer I will go to Patagonia, let´s see if they´ll receive me with overwhelming niceness:) As far as to the middle class, seems like a weird theory to me.

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by General_Ohiggins » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:08 pm

jessicak1234 wrote:I think the most annoying Chileans are the middle-class Chileans for sure!! The poorer, country folk are nice and humble and hospitable in general. They will give you their bed and sleep on a cold hard floor. They will expect you to show up and stay not only for dinner but sleep there and eat breakfast and lunch the next day, even better if you make a weekend out of it. The true upper glass people have grace and class and try to make everyone around them feel comfortable and smile friendly to people. The middle class however (and that includes all 3 levels of middle class) strive to be upper class and have an arrogant attitude towards others. They try to belittle everyone in hopes someone will believe they are superior in some way. They will not offer to help you they brag about money or cars or their house etc. It is like they believe acting snobby or arrogant somehow equates to being upper-class. I could go on and on with logical reasons why they would believe that, but I won't.

Most Chileans are middle-class so therefore most interactions expats have with Chileans would be full of these annoying qualities...
I am a midde class Chilean and I dont consider myself a rude, arrogant, or anything like that, I would say that "new richs" are!!! I think it's because when this kind of people have lived almost the whole life in a complex economical situation and suddenly their finde themselves with a better financial situation they think they own the world!!! that happens mainly because of lack of education. Usually Chileans who travel to some touristic places are not very welcomed, because most of them come from that "new rich class" who thinks that because they can go for 1 week to Cancun they can treat people as piece of crap.

About what patagonix poste supposedly made by a Chilean and being a Chilean myself, I have to agree in a lots of things and disagree in some others.In the case of education, I wouldn't say it is bad as that fellow chilean said, I have a Business Admin diploma from DuocUC here and I took International Business in Canada and I didn't experience a lots of difference between programs and topics.
Chileans are lazy people, I would say that is out of discussion here hahahahahaa, I worked in Canada and people really work there!!!! I mean they dont spend 15 minutes chats with their workmates talking about the soup opera or the hockey game, they understand that you have been paid for working not for doing social life, Im not saying that you have to behave as a robot but c'mon anyone who has work with Chileans knows what Im talking about.
I have a big problem now though, and it's that Im felling that I can't fit in the Chilean way of doing things and in the Chilean society in general, in just 3 years living in a 1st world country I figured out that after 1000000000000000000000000000 years maybe, but just maybe we will be a developed nation, and realizing that ugly truth is really sad when you love your country.

Feeling depressed already just to reading this haahahahaha anyway, have a good one!

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by La_Tini » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:35 pm

Chileans are lazy people, I would say that is out of discussion here hahahahahaa, I worked in Canada and people really work there!!!! I mean they dont spend 15 minutes chats with their workmates talking about the soup opera or the hockey game, they understand that you have been paid for working not for doing social life, Im not saying that you have to behave as a robot but c'mon anyone who has work with Chileans knows what Im talking about.
I have the theory that this is only due to extremely long working hours here. In comparison to Germany where I come from people have larger working shifts, but it´s logical that you can only focus and concentrate for a certain time span, so people here tend to start their working day with a large breakfast, taken many coffee breaks and so on...

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by El pescado » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:08 pm

so people here tend to start their working day with a large breakfast, taken many coffee breaks and so on...
Where are they going for their large breakfast?

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Re: The warmest people in Chile are Expats

Post by La_Tini » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:16 pm

nowhere, in the few office jobs I worked here, people just ate at the very same office...

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