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Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:53 pm
by mem
frozen-north wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:02 pm
Gloria wrote: Soros, the Jesuits, the Vatican and all orgs getting paid to disrupt foreign societies.
mem wrote: Bachelet subsidized LAW airline
Have you been hanging out with 'needwaterandpeace' ??
have you ever done an Internet search on the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan? It is the Jesuit-Illuminist-Masonic Lodge plan to merge all nationalities and religions together as one--except one. It is to be ruled over by one religious nation-state (who will maintain their own separate identity and religion). And about common visas and dropping borders,

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14888&start=720#p185123
Well...is there any doubt that the yellow envelopes with government invitation to Chile for the haitians didnt also come with subsidized airfare from the government? It seems hard to believe that all those people paid for their own ticket at normal open market prices. Why else would they come to Chile versus somewhere else that is closer/cheaper.

But perhaps they did and the government subsidy didnt happen and the yellow envelopes with government invitation to Chile is just an annoying red herring as well as Bachelets UN appointment.

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:54 pm
by eeuunikkeiexpat
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:13 am
by admin
Brazil deployes troops on the venezuelan boarder.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1LD27Q

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:19 am
by admin
Peru declares an emergency on its boarders:

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/arti ... tion-surge

The numbers being reported, are still not adding up nor passing the smell test.

Peru says they have 300,000, but some how they are averging 3,000 a day crossing the boarder. That is more like a million. Are they all still there? Are they in chile?

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:21 am
by admin
Interesting that the countries are going to ask the U.N. for help.

Let's see if bachelet gets involved in immigration again via her new position at the UN.

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:24 am
by mem
admin wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:21 am
Interesting that the countries are going to ask the U.N. for help.

Let's see if bachelet gets involved in immigration again via her new position at the UN.
You can count on it.

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:10 pm
by admin
Seems the goverment is gping to help send the haitiens home.

https://www.df.cl/noticias/economia-y-p ... 24951.html

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:19 pm
by Gloria
admin wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:10 pm
Seems the goverment is gping to help send the haitiens home.

https://www.df.cl/noticias/economia-y-p ... 24951.html
Plop, plop, fizz, fizz...oh what a relief it is!

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:46 pm
by Space Cat
An interview with a Chilean professor from Cambridge. He explains how the unindustrialized Chilean economy avoids salary growth by increasing the immigration flow instead of productivity.

Sostienen que política migratoria postergará al menos en una década el alza de los salarios
https://www.usach.cl/news/sostienen-pol ... s-salarios
Nuestro sistema económico es esencialmente rentista y depredador; vive de la apropiación fácil (e ilegítima) de las rentas de los recursos naturales, de las que generan la falta de competencia (concentración oligopólica), de las financieras y de las que emergen por poder pagar salarios mezquinos a una proporción importante de la población.
Frente a eso habían básicamente dos alternativas: subir productividad o abrir la inmigración. Lo primero, para poder pagar esos salarios en aumento; lo segundo, para que todo pudiese seguir igual. La primera, que caracterizó a los países desarrollados en una etapa similar del desarrollo, era pedir demasiado, pues requería incrementar la inversión, la absorción tecnológica, la diversificación económica, etcétera. Era una pasada de cambio dinamizador. La segunda, harto más fácil, le deba oxígeno a nuestro modelo rentista y así poder postergar al menos por una década el alza de los salarios y la caída de la desigualdad.
El gran flujo migratorio ya está aquí y hay que absorberlo de la mejor manera posible, tanto en lo humano como en lo económico, pero como muestra la encuesta Casen, ya comienza a caer el ingreso del trabajo de los deciles más bajos. La política migratoria, empujada inicialmente por el empresariado y el “segundo piso” de la Concertación, ya da sus frutos. Por eso, ahora la tarea de combatir la pobreza es muchísimo más compleja de lo que ya era. Lo mismo respecto a nuestra obscena desigualdad.

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:58 pm
by fraggle092
So this "expert" believes that it was a combination of successive Concertación governments and Big Business that conspired to permit this unchecked inflow of low-quality economic immigrants in order to create a pool of cheap unskilled labour that would maintain the present system by keeping wages down?

Cannot be bothered to enumerate all the errors in this tendentious article.

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:57 pm
by mem
The latest chapter in the saga

Haitians may fly back on Pineras air force 1.

http://www.haitilibre.com/en/news-25474 ... plane.html

Re: chile's migration crisis

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:31 am
by admin
Similarly, under-secretary Ubilla explained that starting in October, a special register would be open to Haitians wishing to return to their country of origin, with the counterpart the commitment not to return to Chile for 10 years.
Yea dont want to pay for them to take a vacation back home to visit relatives.