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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by Gloria » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:20 am

41southofchile, take a good look at this "documentary" (if you can call it that) to gain "compassion" and as an excuse of the Haitian invasion to Chile. There are 3 or 4 parts of this so you can have an idea. And then if you will read below in the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf4hf5wJMYw&t=2s

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... rt-alleges

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/04/amer ... index.html
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by Gloria » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:43 am

EUREKA!! Here´s part of the solution...turn that boat back from Europe to Africa!....I found Top 10: Africa's most prosperous countries !!
https://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/18/busi ... index.html
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by 41southchile » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:36 pm

Gloria wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:20 am
41southofchile, take a good look at this "documentary" (if you can call it that) to gain "compassion" and as an excuse of the Haitian invasion to Chile. There are 3 or 4 parts of this so you can have an idea. And then if you will read below in the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf4hf5wJMYw&t=2s

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... rt-alleges

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/04/amer ... index.html
Will do, thanks
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:50 pm

The american red cross is a con artist scam.

Those assholes were using the earthquake in chile to collect money in the united states almost a full year after the 2010 quake, even though they had nothing, zero at all to do with the earthquake rescue or reconstruction.

I can only imagine how they ripped off people usimg the haiti flag.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by 41southchile » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:01 pm

Gloria wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:53 am
Listen, I´m not opposed at all to immigration. It could be a good thing in many ways to fill the voids but immigration should be in an orderly fashion, regulated as it should be in a civilized world, not as it is happening now....a "human tsunami". Nothing good will come out of this. If it´s not stopped and regulated, it will create another war....a war of survival.
Let´s take a look at Italy for a minute.The population of Italy is 60.600 +- millions and it has 300.000 plus of land. Italy has taken in 6 million plus of immigrants mostly from northern and other parts of Africa. Doesn´t the world thinks is enough? Don´t the italians have the right to refuse entrance whether those are rich or poor, in war or peace time? When enough is enough? Aren´t they entitled to say who goes or stay for the preservation of their race, customs, culture and way of living? Absolutely!
Yeah fair point Gloria, I'm going to look into it some more. I like interacting with people on here, opens my mind hearing others view points. The thing about Chile is there is always time to think about stuff, waiting at bank , waiting at Notaria, etc etc, there seems to be a lot of waiting time, which I used to get pissed off with and think was wasted time now I use it to think about the changing world around us.
Sometimes I wonder if it's too much to think about and shouldn't just start with local stuff, but then I suppose it's a global world and it's all connected now days nothing is straight forward, just look at the food in your cupboard or your car . I like the idea of globalisation, but am aware that it hasn't worked for a lot of people, (hence brexit, Trump etc). Do we just become global in trade or does the movement of people go with that too ? Because globalisation is inevitable and is already here, but for the vast majority of people they don't live in a global world, they may work in companies that export globally but they live locally and what happens in their communities is what matters to them. I read an interesting article in the economist the other day that said Brexit wasn't a rejection of Europe it was a rejection of London and how well a certain global elite had done but the rest of the country not so well. They offered a few solutions like glocalisation , which is what I like too, but it goes back to my (and their ) original question, do we take the advantages of global trade and the wealth it brings many countries, such as Chile, and restrict the movement of people or how do we go about that ? it's the question of our times because you can't have one without the other or can you ? A percentage of the world now live in one country and work in another or have business in another, but it's not the majority, yet the majority still benefit from globalisation of goods and services.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by frozen-north » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:56 am

Gloria wrote:
41southofchile, take a good look at this "documentary" (if you can call it that) to gain "compassion" and as an excuse of the Haitian invasion to Chile. There are 3 or 4 parts of this so you can have an idea. And then if you will read below in the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf4hf5wJMYw&t=2s
Comunidad haitiana rechaza emisión de documental de Canal 13 que “estigmatiza” a su población

"La “realidad” tendenciosa que pretende mostrar este documental, omite mostrar que en nuestro país, hay personas humanas, que se levantan a trabajar, a estudiar, que viven en casas coloniales, en edificios modernos, que luchamos cada día por nuestra dignidad", argumentan distintas agrupaciones en un comunicado.

http://www.eldesconcierto.cl/2018/01/07 ... poblacion/

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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by frozen-north » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:09 am

41southchile wrote:
There is a list of reasons why countries are poor and shitty, generally its geogrpraphy too, not just corruption, although that plays an important part.
Sometimes history helps to understand how they got to that point.

En 1825, Francia exigió a Haití que éste le pagara una compensación a cambio de la independencia.

Bajo la amenaza de ser atacado por el imperio francés, Haití acepta este trato injusto y comienza a pagar una deuda que, según muchos historiadores, explica en gran medida la difícil situación económica en la que se ha encontrado el país después de su independencia.

http://www.elmostrador.cl/noticias/opin ... l-racismo/

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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by Gloria » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:54 pm

Okidoki, let's blame history :roll:
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:04 am

The goverment has announced they are expelling 2000 foreigners with criminal records.

Speaking of criminals, LAW airline was operating without insurance, had pilotes without valid licenses, did not have maintence inspections, did not pay airport taxes, and did not pay employees for several months.

https://www.df.cl/noticias/empresas/act ... 90517.html
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:22 am

This article says there are three planed waves of expulsion.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/amer ... l-migrants

1. 2000 criminals

2. People completing prison sentences and slated for expulsion.

3. Everyone that was illegally in the country, and did not use the amnesty to fix there immigration status. An estimate 300,000 illegals.

Now, that said, we have not seen anything official to support number 3.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:49 pm

Well, here it is straight from the horses mouth:

https://www.df.cl/noticias/economia-y-p ... 14602.html

Guess he is serious about deporting people illegaly in the country.

Again, have not seen anything official. Pinera says a lot of things, that dont always square with the law.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:20 am

Interesting study on immigrants, education levels, and work, along with stats on numbers of immigrants and where they work. They put the total at over 700,000.

http://www.latercera.com/pulso/noticia/ ... os/235733/
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