frozen-north wrote: 41southchile wrote: Gloria wrote:
I like the idea of bringing down a Canadian plumber to show these half ass clowns who don't give a shit, how it's really done. Maybe someone should start up an agency of competent trades people from countries that can get shit right.
Don't put your hands on the fire for Canadian or American contractors because many are as deficient as the Chileans. My favorite show in the US was Mike Holmes series fixing other Canadian contractors fuck ups.
Possibly, but it's the old 80/20 rule, except in Chile it's the reverse. In Canada and developed countries, where being a tradesperson such as a plumber or electrian is actually a valued profession in society, there are probably 80 percent that do the job well and 20 percent that are cowboys (that's where you TV show comes in), in Chile it's 80 percent ignorants and 20 percent that do the job well.
Actually Gloria is correct and your statements are not well informed, and you are not the first to make the same ignorant statements in this forum.
You can not compare a 20 dollar a day Chilean 'maestro' with a 20 dollar an hour Canadian plumber. Even admin admitted earlier that the problem that his brother-in-law had was that he did not want to spend more money on hiring somebody more competent. Being a 'valued profession in society' cannot be translated in higher wages in Chile when the median salary is around 700 dollars, and the minimum salary is somewhere around 200+ dollars. Most people in Chile can just not afford to hire a more competent and more expensive plumber, etc.
As for the second part, there are plenty of examples of incompetence in the land of 'Holmes on Homes'. One of my favorites is what happened with the approval by the provincial government of Alberta of untreated pine shakes for roofing.
Between 20,000 and 30,000 Alberta homes have been affected by failing pine shakes due to a fungus growth that promotes premature rotting, forcing homes and some commercial structures to be reroofed after five to eight years rather than the predicted and warrantied 25.http://www.businessedge.ca/archives/art ... andal-5208
Yes yes we all know the salaries blah blah blah, stop making excuses for the absolute crap ass jobs the majority of people do. That's the trouble here, your argument about wages is far too simple, if that was right why would the excellent plumber we found in Puerto Varas a a year or two ago, be absolutely swamped with work? And pulling a good wage with a nice pick up. Why was the absolutly brillant waiter that we used a to have a in a favourite restaurant in Santiago a few years back be pulling over 1 million a pesos a month in tips . Maybe I wasn't coromparing apples with apples but my point was if Chilean society valued trades and services jobs a little more and people actually took pride in their work rather than forcing kids to go to some Dubious University to end up in a career which is swamped and never actually work in that field or do so for a piss poor salary. Stop making excuses about wages and income levels, see enough of that bs from all those minimum wage people you talk about, thinking they should be the boss in day one of the job and doing absolutely jack apart from looking at their phones instead of actually doing the job they are supposed to be doing. It's that kind of mentality that holds the majority of the population back and why people are on such shitty wages, because work is not important, service is not important for them. It's just a means to an end and they bitch and moan about wages but never actually do anything except follow the victim mentality. Only a small minority better themselves.
Yes I am also aware that shit goes wrong in other countries, but as I said it's the minority, that's why you can find all those links and you get tv shows about it. Here it's just accepted, don't think you'll see a show like that here.