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Pacific Alliance Exploring Single Passport

Postby admin » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:25 am

So, it seems the Pacific Alliance (Chile, Mexico, Peru, Colombia, and associates) is looking in to the possibility of a single passport for the members.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-paci ... SKBN19K2R5

Not sure that is a good idea, but interesting. Also not exactly sure what it achieves, as we can already travel between them on just a national ID. I would be a little concerned that travel restrictions that exist for other members, to none-member countries, become contagious to the Chilean passport. Which is already one of the most visa free passports in the World.

I think the other members need to get a much better handle on their crime and corruption before that is even viable, otherwise it will drag the Chilean passport backwards.

Still, in theory I like the idea, if there are real benfits and not just political dog and pony show.
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Re: Pacific Alliance Exploring Single Passport

Postby admin » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:22 pm

Brazil is just wishing they could get any passpprt.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tes-budget

They ran out of money going in to the school vacation season to issue passports.

Probably good for chile, and especialy the ski resorts, as they can enter in a national id card.
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Re: Pacific Alliance Exploring Single Passport

Postby Andres » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:23 pm

It has numerous downsides, many that we do not yet realize, but will come to regret when those who make a career of scamming others put their mind to how they can pervert it to their advantage.

(I make this statement from experience observing seemingly-innocuous "improvements" turn into nightmares because those who thought that "it appeared a good idea at the time" can not envision all the risks involved when someone else has the time to find the risks/threats and exploits them.)
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Re: Pacific Alliance Exploring Single Passport

Postby admin » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:54 am

I always think of these political negotiations go more along the lines of this. Some mid-level negotiator, in a rush to put a feather in their resume, half-ass things to push through any sort of agreement. They move on with their career, and then some other mid-level negotiator does another piece. None are responsible for the consequences of any of it. Sometimes they are good, sometimes they are bad.

Again, I honestly don't see the point of it. When we (permanent residents and citizens of chile), already have travel between countries on just an ID.

Well, in Brazil they wish they had any passport this week. Brazil has run out of funds to issue passports, just as the school vacation season is starting. Which is probably good for Chile, and especially the ski resorts, as people can travel on just their national ID to Chile.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tes-budget
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Re: Pacific Alliance Exploring Single Passport

Postby at46 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:55 pm

Borderless borders is just a nice wrapping for a new money grab by the border services. I've seen it all too well between US/Canada: every border initiative that's supposed to move people faster ends up creating havoc and discouraging them from travel, while increasing the headcount and pay of border guards.


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