Chile Forum

Puelche you seem to be talking about several cases of (very weird) inter-family violence. (That and international arms trade or various foreign policies).

Stats do suggest a lot of "domestic" violence here - I think it was made illegal in 1994. But this is a separate issue I think.

el puelche wrote:Has anyone here really seen the face of CHilean crime?...I have on a few ocasions but nothing really serious. It would be hard for me to say exactly how vicious it can get but my experience tells me that it gets bad quickly and the criminals are good at what they do...for the carreer criminal in CHile I think desperation is the main course and we all know that desperate men do desperate things.

Ya, seen it on a few occasions - my Hemingway days at the bar and years living in the Centro - and I know that the mujer and colleagues on those turnos de noches at the restaurant or while living in their lower class barrios have definitely seen that "face". Also is the reason so many 'yet to have an experience' gringos are "mystified" why their chileno amigos and well wishers seem so concerned over their safety.

Actually, Chilean produced films IMO often accurately depict this area which is hidden from most gringo eyes.

el puelche wrote:Chileans love to talk, converse, chat, discuss and provoke...its national culture and could take place on the street corner in a newspaper editorial or an afternoon tartulia at the club...some have apolojized for the rant or discussing something of an opinion here on the forum...I think as long as we are civil..or maybe civil with an edge..then whats the big issue with going over this and that and posting it...if you are gooing to live in CHile than you better get used to hearing comments about whatever country you are from and thier comportamiento internationaly...

Yes, don't shrink away folks, it's good practice for acting "chileno". Javier on Yahoo Chilegringos and our TomBrad would most likely 100% agree.

Was easy and fun for me as I confuse them as my nationality, physical appearance, ethnicity, accent does not equal 1+1=2 to them. How to categorize me so they can begin to pick away deeper than the surface? JAJAJA ...

Cuidate

As one who is involved on a weekly basis in sporting activities using firearms, I nowadays tend to conceal what my chosen sport is. Among "academics" it's totally inappropriate behavior, along the lines of speaking one's mind about illegal immigration, abortion etc.

I came across a site a while ago called "stalking the wild taboo" that skewers many of these http://lrainc.com/swtaboo/index.html
inappropriate subjects. Being of a contrary (un PC) nature myself, I sort of enjoyed much of what has been put up there. Again, academics and liberals may be shocked.
Murf, I still have my Irish passport (dual nationality) although I grew up in London. The struggle there would have been a pretty one sided event if not for firearms and gelignite, no? That's off topic though. Nuff said.

I thought that one of the reasons Chile is so attractive is the lack of intrusive govt.
I suppose that if one is a proponent of "big goverment" and the "nanny state", where we wait for the police to handle our ills there's no argument.

I compete with cops on a regular basis. Here in Southern Ca they typically have many stories about arriving in time to take the report but not so many about arriving in time to prevent the crime in the first place.
No matter what country one chooses to inhabit, the right to self defense should be preserved. It appears that Chile has just this provision, so long as one can afford a weapon. A pitchfork??....that's harsh!

MikieO wrote:I compete with cops on a regular basis. Here in Southern Ca they typically have many stories about arriving in time to take the report but not so many about arriving in time to prevent the crime in the first place.

Wow ya mean Chicago cops do not have a monopoly on that behaviour?

I don't buy the republican nany state BS scare stories.

They are all very willing to build bigger and faster computer systems to listen your phone calls and read your emails (hi guys!!!), spend 30% or more of the national budget on military spending, and yet use the argument that if they spend the money on health care, roads, schools, rescuing people from floods, or fixing anything else inside the country that is being big government / big brother / socialistic bla, bla, bla, bla.

It is cop out on doing their job. It is in the job description, as "...promote the general welfare,..." (first sentence, U.S. constitution).

I say we put them all up against the wall and ....

MikieO wrote:...many stories about arriving in time to take the report but not so many about arriving in time to prevent the crime in the first place.

where is it that these psychic crime prevention units exist?

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Any and all of my experiences with calling cops have ended with too little too late.Each and evrey time without fail,No exceptions.

go play outside wrote:

MikieO wrote:...many stories about arriving in time to take the report but not so many about arriving in time to prevent the crime in the first place.

where is it that these psychic crime prevention units exist?

This is where taking responsibility for one's own safety, health, and well-being comes into play (which necessarily includes looking out for those around you) rather than depending upon others to pick up YOUR slack.

yes, I've heard your logic. You do this by having a loaded gun in the house. I'm glad I don't live where you live.

go play outside wrote:yes, I've heard your logic. You do this by having a loaded gun in the house. I'm glad I don't live where you live.

If I'm not infringing upon your life, liberty, or property, what business is it of yours???

"There are two kinds of people in the world: those who just want to be left alone, and those who will not leave them alone." --Ernest Hancock

go play outside wrote: You do this by having a loaded gun in the house.

A loaded gun is just another tool. As has been referenced, an ax, pitchfork, chainsaw, machete, hammer, screwdriver, flatwear, and even a ballpoint pen can yield the same results.

Any bad guy looking for trouble while I'm sitting down enjoying a meal is subject to finding it in the form of a fork sticking out the side of his head.

I'm sorry, I thought cos you brought it up as part of a public forum discussion meant it was OK to discuss.

I sure hope no one interrupts you while you're eating. You seem, well, awfully jumpy.

I'm thoroughly out of this conversation. You sir, you're right. About everything.

Generally, gun-grabbers have issues telling others how they should conduct themselves, while at the same time not tending to their own knitting.

There's a term for this sort of person: statist.

Agentx3 wrote:Any bad guy looking for trouble while I'm sitting down enjoying a meal is subject to finding it in the form of a fork sticking out the side of his head.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!
I will end my participation in this discussion by saying "fire in the hole"

I am going to make one more comment on this thread before Admin pulls the plug on it.

The original poster asked about concealed weapons permit in Chile. Admin replied that Chile does not permit concealed weapons.

Generally, gun-grabbers have issues telling others how they should conduct themselves, while at the same time not tending to their own knitting.

There's a term for this sort of person: statist.

Now the discussion has degenerated into name-calling. (Fire!)

I move that we close this thread before further degeneration takes place.

Anyone second the motion?