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Unexpected Laws

Postby wardo1234 » Tue May 22, 2012 8:34 pm

I was wondering if there were any laws in Chile that one would not expect there to be; things that you encounter in every day life that an American would do and take for granted, but is illegal in Chile?
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby nwdiver » Tue May 22, 2012 8:48 pm

wardo1234 wrote:I was wondering if there were any laws in Chile that one would not expect there to be; things that you encounter in every day life that an American would do and take for granted, but is illegal in Chile?




Like “you are guilty until proven innocent” that’s a big one for Americans.
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby horselover1830 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:19 pm

no right turns on red lights
and
you must have your headlights on at all times on freeways
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ps - as for "guilty until proven innocent" - in ca. (where i am going for the second trial of someone close to me) - that is pretty much the case - guilty until proven innocent and the conditions of the jails where people who cannot make bail are held are UNREAL! i had no idea
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby xpat » Tue May 22, 2012 11:33 pm

wardo1234 wrote:I was wondering if there were any laws in Chile that one would not expect there to be; things that you encounter in every day life that an American would do and take for granted, but is illegal in Chile?


(Relatively) easy private firearms possession is not the case in Chile, afaik.
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby admin » Wed May 23, 2012 9:44 am

Private contracts are likely a big one vs. a common law system. In chile, when in doubt, notarize it. There are a lot of contracts that are simply not valid without a notary signature, but Americans would just assume they can just sign them and be done.
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby admin » Wed May 23, 2012 9:50 am

just thought of one. The driver's license in Chile. Once you have permanent residency, you are required to get a Chilean drivers license. Catch is for most foreigners, you need to show a diploma that proves you have at least an 8th grade education. No big deal if you went to school in Chile. Big deal for foreigners, because they need to get a legalized original copy of their diploma. Had a few clients that went to schools that no longer exist, or otherwise had problems getting a copy of their diploma.
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby zer0nz » Wed May 23, 2012 10:13 am

horselover1830 wrote:no right turns on red lights
and
you must have your headlights on at all times on freeways
lana
ps - as for "guilty until proven innocent" - in ca. (where i am going for the second trial of someone close to me) - that is pretty much the case - guilty until proven innocent and the conditions of the jails where people who cannot make bail are held are UNREAL! i had no idea


you can turn right on a red light when the sign says you can!
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby Donnybrook » Wed May 23, 2012 10:40 am

[quote="admin Had a few clients that went to schools that no longer exist, or otherwise had problems getting a copy of their diploma.[/quote]

That would have been my case but the diploma was not a requirement when we came to Chile. I honestly think a bit of lobbying on the part of a few embassies could help with it if they tried. Certainly presenting a diploma of higher education should be an accepted substitute. That's the trouble with too many laws; no room for exceptions or common sense.
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby T_ROBO » Wed May 23, 2012 5:31 pm

Donnybrook wrote:Certainly presenting a diploma of higher education should be an accepted substitute. That's the trouble with too many laws; no room for exceptions or common sense.

Fortunately common sense exists here in Talca ;-) for they accept the ID card that I got from the university where I work as proof that I completed the 8th grade :-)

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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby Donnybrook » Wed May 23, 2012 5:53 pm

T_ROBO wrote:
Donnybrook wrote:Certainly presenting a diploma of higher education should be an accepted substitute. That's the trouble with too many laws; no room for exceptions or common sense.

Fortunately common sense exists here in Talca ;-) for they accept the ID card that I got from the university where I work as proof that I completed the 8th grade :-)

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Good for you! Imagine trying to chase up the nuns from a convent school which closed down 30 years ago! I am so grateful I didn't have to do this step.

I remember DS having to do a test in a little local school in Viña to show he could handle 3rd grade (as well as presenting all the relevant papers from his previous school). I don't think kids have to do that step anymore. And foreign residents no longer need a salvoconducto to travel out of Chile. So the driver's license is a pain but other things have gotten easier.
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby admin » Wed May 23, 2012 7:02 pm

patagoniax wrote:
Donnybrook wrote: Certainly presenting a diploma of higher education should be an accepted substitute. That's the trouble with too many laws; no room for exceptions or common sense.


You can take an equivalency exam to get the certificate of "octavo basico" for the driver licence. No, you cannot use a notarised/legalised copy of your Masters or Doctorate diploma, because they don't care about anything except the 8o básico, and in the Chilean way of thinking, somebody could have received a doctorate without having passed the 8th grade.

The little exam is in Spanish and takes about an hour with a number two pencil to actually write, but sometimes days to arrange (depends where you are -- sometimes can be done the same day). When we say "it's in Spanish" this does not mean the Spanish that you learned in the civilised nations.


I don't what end you are pulling this out of, but its all bullshit.

Any diploma above the 8th grade. So, yes, PhD, the Masters, BA all will work.
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Re: Unexpected Laws

Postby jehturner » Thu May 24, 2012 11:38 am

Sigh. You can, of course, go to another muni.
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