Chile Forum

patagoniax wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... 1W20120430

Oh, no, shamed by a paragon of virtue, the US government. (sarcasm)

Bullshit.

Let's see. You got half a court rulling that went bad for a foriegn company (that had lots of other issues, and thus why I dumped my stock in that mine project), and Chile is among the few countries that told the U.S. to kiss their ass on the copyrights.

By the wya, it looks like it was the Chilean goverment that screwed-up processing the environmental permits. Try digging up something on an Indian reservation in the States or Canada without talking to the tribe or the local community.

As for the copyright bs, under U.S. policy if chile is not willing to kick in doors and drag people away to the electric chair for copying a movie, they are not enforcing copyrights. Chile treats it for what it is: a civil contract dispute between two parties. If the american movie or music industry wants to enforce copyrights, they will have to go to court to do it. Chile is not going to give them military troops to do it. It is not going to kick in people's doors, raid private companies, and all the other wonderful things the U.S. goverment does in the name of copyrights enforcment over civil liberties.

Did you cover the new American law that forced the salmon industry and other industries to undergo software audits by microsoft inorder to export salmon to the United States. Seems the U.S. is now forcing anyone that wants to export to the United States to prove they used licensed software in the production. Just one problem. They are picking and choosing which countries, companies, and industries they will audit to squash competion in the United States. God forbid they would force all Chinese companies to be audited, or just about any country in Asia. I use to see more pirated movies, software, and just about all types of technology on any given street corner in China than I have seen the entire time I have lived in Chile. Hell, I never seen a real copy of any software in China. There are entire malls and city districts in China dedicated to nothing but copies of western technology, built and run by chinese goverment. It is political crap from the U.S.

Here you go, what is wrong with the u.s. copyright watch list:
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6456/125/

And here is the exert from the 2012 report just released covering Chile:

Chile
Chile remains on the Priority Watch List in 2012. In 2011, Chile took steps towards addressing
some, but not all, outstanding IPR issues under the United States-Chile Free Trade Agreement.
Recent action included accession to the Convention Relating to the Distribution of Programme-
Carrying Signals Transmitted by Satellite and the Trademark Law Treaty. Chile has also taken
steps toward acceding to and ratifying the International Convention for the Protection of New
Varieties of Plants. While this progress is welcome, major issues remain outstanding. The
United States urges Chile to implement an effective system for addressing patent issues
expeditiously in connection with applications to market pharmaceutical products. The United
States also continues to urge Chile to implement protections against the circumvention of
technological protection measures and protections for encrypted program-carrying satellite
signals, and to ensure that effective administrative and judicial procedures, as well as deterrent
remedies are made available to rights holders. The United States also urges Chile to provide
adequate protection against unfair commercial use, as well as unauthorized disclosure, of
undisclosed test or other data generated to obtain marketing approval for pharmaceutical
products, and to amend its Internet service provider liability regime to permit effective action
against piracy over the Internet. The United States will continue to work with Chile to resolve
these and other issues, including through the Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations.

They are pissed that Chile passed a net neutrality law, protecting the internet service providers in Chile. They are pissed that Chile is not protecting monsonto's genetically modified poison. They are pissed that Chile's transparency laws require the disclosure to the public what goes in to pharmaceuticals during the application process, because god forbid anyone would be allowed to pier review scientific studies that produce medicine. They are pissed most of all that U.S. copyright holders have to go to court to enforce their rights, rather than police raiding the homes.

They are mostly pissed that the only leverage currently on the table is the Trans-Pacific Partnership, as the U.S. sure does not seem too interested in taking action on any of the other trade agreements hung-up in congress for years.

As for this "Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations", there has been a lot of discussion going on about should Chile even be bothering with it since we have free trade agreements with almost every country involved already. Very little in it for Chile.

They are not offering anything in return.