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Finn wrote:The government of Greece accepted today the bail-out package. It is more like a riot in Athens now. Live video feed:
http://www.livestream.com/stopcarteltvgr

I thought that was just afternoon traffic in Greece.

For those that have not experienced afternoon traffic in Greece, it consist of some one taking too long to go through a light, followed by all the people behind them honking their horns until a few cars run out of gas, then all the horns in Athens honking at the same time until complete grid-lock is achieved.

LOL! =)

Actually, this might be the start of a European wide upheaval. I am following online also the speeches of the Finnish members of the Parliament, it is almost 11 p.m. but they continue speaking of the new government plan. Big problems, because the strong opposition is totally against the bail-outs.

Quick tie-back to your discussion re: bottling water in Chile, I came across this company in Patagonia approx 1 month ago and sent them a note re: locations of distribution. http://crevassewaters.com/

California South wrote:Quick tie-back to your discussion re: bottling water in Chile, I came across this company in Patagonia approx 1 month ago and sent them a note re: locations of distribution. http://crevassewaters.com/

If you might like to read some complete rubbish, go look at that website.

Anytime a bottling company uses glacier water and then talks about its "exquisite purity" then you know that they are lying.

They also have some misunderstandings about the difference between the southern patagonian ice field and the individual glaciers.

And finally, a failure in geography, where they describe the southern ice fields as being in the "lowest latitudes of the Chilean Andes." The lowest latitudes would be in the extreme north.

Chilean marketing: where mendacity is a way of life.

I was hoping for your feedback. Got a BS vibe from the site.
Will this adversely affect the area?

California South wrote:I was hoping for your feedback. Got a BS vibe from the site.
Will this adversely affect the area?

The bottler is indeed BS, but that might not keep them from selling the stuff. They won't impact the ice field. The southern patagonia ice field is huge -- supposedly the second-largest volume of ice outside the polar regions. And I can see the southern end of it from my house -in the first image. I think there are something like fifty major glaciers that come off that ice sheet. In fact the northern boundary of that ice sheet used to be right about where admin's house is today.




This is one of the glaciers that come off that ice sheet. The face is about 60 metres high and about 5 km wide, and the glaciar is about 30 km long. It's an advancing glacier as well.


View of the "glacial milk" from that glacier. Never let anyone convince you that the water coming off those glaciers is "pure."

Wow...great pic Px... surreal. Pray tell, what is the glacial milk?

James-in-Wonderland wrote:Wow...great pic Px... surreal. Pray tell, what is the glacial milk?

It goes by various names and if you don't mind my directing a glance to our only occasionally useful friend, here is some reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_flour

Rock flour, or glacial flour, consists of fine-grained, silt-sized particles of rock, generated by mechanical grinding of bedrock by glacial erosion or by artificial grinding to a similar size. Because the material is very small, it becomes suspended in river water making the water appear cloudy, which is sometimes known as glacial milk.

When the sediments enter a river, it turns the river's color gray, light brown, iridescent blue-green, or milky white. If the river flows into a glacial lake, the lake may appear turquoise in color as a result. When flows of the flour are extensive, a distinct layer of a different color flows into the lake and begins to dissipate and settle as the flow extends from the increase in water flow from the glacier during snow melts and heavy rain periods....

Athens is burning..

I was just in skype with a colleague on the ground there. He lives there, says its really bad. Banks, shopping malls in downtown...burning. Sounds like the police are stepping aside..

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Yup. Wire services sending stories and images. They say the worst rioting in five years or so. But mostly seems to be a cover for the sacking and looting. Reports of at least 50 police injured so far and response with flash-bang grenades and tear-gas so not clear that police are actually standing around.

patagoniax wrote:.
Yup. Wire services sending stories and images. They say the worst rioting in five years or so. But mostly seems to be a cover for the sacking and looting. Reports of at least 50 police injured so far and response with flash-bang grenades and tear-gas so not clear that police are actually standing around.

Not standing around at all. Engaged in running battles but concentrating on protecting the Hellenic Parliament.

It's the Germans should be protesting.

Where do the Greeks think the money is going to come from to pay for all the services they take for granted and that they largely refuse to pay for themselves?

A default would not be disastrous ultimately for the eurozone but would be catastrophic for Greece.

patagoniax wrote:.
Yup. Wire services sending stories and images. They say the worst rioting in five years or so. But mostly seems to be a cover for the sacking and looting. Reports of at least 50 police injured so far and response with flash-bang grenades and tear-gas so not clear that police are actually standing around.

I was just listening to a 2-day old video by Eric King (kingworldnews, a gold bug site) who was reading a report from the Telegraph UK stating the Greece police union had issued a statement saying that its members refused to stand against their parents, sons, brothers or any other citizen who protests, and goes on to say, they are threatening to arrest members of the troika, EU, ECB, and the IMF...for " blackmail, covertly eroding democracy and national sovereignty". Seems like things are coming to head there. Police turning on their masters.