Chile Forum

zer0nz wrote: if your goingt to impose a rule like this you make sure the systems are in place not to make that person feel like a second class citzen!

If one might wish to avoid being made to feel like a second-class (or less) citizen, then it would be best to avoid airports in the US, where it may well take you more than an hour to get on the "bus" and there is no limit to the extent of the indignities to which one may be subjected.

But more to the point: Chile may have adopted US-style homeowner compounds and associated behaviours and regulations, but Chile is still just part of Latin America, and the sort of class-based treatment being discussed is pretty much part of the landscape. Chile has just reached the point where some people pretend to be upset about it.

They already have the Hitler version of the event on youtube.

patagoniax wrote:

john wrote: It seems to me that the movement restrictions imposed on maids and gardeners by "home owners" association covenants (and upheld by the courts) are a violation of basic human rights and fall way short of being fair and reasonable.

It should not surprise anyone that similar homeowner-association regulations, requiring nonresident-worker transport by bus, and such "movement restrictions," would commonly be upheld in the US. The pot may wish to consider before calling the kettle black.

Px, I think you're 'winging it' with your response and, so, please provide evidence to support your allegation. Whether, or not, the pot is black in this matter is totally irrelevant. This treatment of workers is despicable, wherever it might occur, and must not be condoned under the guise of social class distinction.

Is nobody concerned that the gardener got kicked and the nana's arm bruised by security? I

john wrote:

patagoniax wrote:

john wrote: It seems to me that the movement restrictions imposed on maids and gardeners by "home owners" association covenants (and upheld by the courts) are a violation of basic human rights and fall way short of being fair and reasonable.

It should not surprise anyone that similar homeowner-association regulations, requiring nonresident-worker transport by bus, and such "movement restrictions," would commonly be upheld in the US. The pot may wish to consider before calling the kettle black.

Px, I think you're 'winging it' with your response and, so, please provide evidence to support your allegation. Whether, or not, the pot is black in this matter is totally irrelevant. This treatment of workers is despicable, wherever it might occur, and must not be condoned under the guise of social class distinction.

The courts in most jurisdictions in the US have upheld a wide range of restrictions that homeowner associations may place upon users/members and visitors, unless such restrictions violate some statute. Absent such statutory proscription, we have seen in the US quite an array of disturbing but nevertheless quite lawful regulations by homeowner organisations. To the best of my knowledge, there are no federal or common state statues that prevent this sort of "discrimination" on the basis of employment or economic status, since those are not protected classes in most jurisdictions in the way that sexual orientation, race, religious preference, and similar are often protected. The US courts have even permitted homeowner organisations to discriminate and deny entry or membership on the basis of age. If you are aware of any statutorily protected status for someone on the basis of being a "low income worker" that would prevent homeowner associations from doing what we are seeing done in Chile, then by all means share your extensive relative knowledge of US statutory and regulatory law with the rest of us.

When it comes to homeowners' association rules I can vouch for 2 that restricted my access: 1-Must be 55 or older to rent or own and 2- No children allowed.
El Algarrobal is a large area which prohibits the entry of public transportation so they provided their own. The nana I know there had the cost of the bus included in her contract well before the association started paying for it. These employees are able to take public and private transportation to their place of work. What concerns me is how security has treated them. Its a team of guys, not one lonely guard waving them in and out. How do you think these employees are going to be treated when the spotlight fades?

I had the thought the other day about this video. This is exactly the type of nevu rich that if I end up at a dinnner party with more than one or two, my wife and I run away. 30 mins of talking to them and you want to put a bullet in your brain. They don't know anything, don't want to know anything, have no real opion on anything (not related to their status symbols such as cars or cloths). They come from a class generation just sufficiently educated to make money(or marry it), but that is about where their depth ends.