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Coyotes (or fox) Southern Chile Spieces and photos please?

Postby admin » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:36 am

O.k. was having my morning coffee on the deck, and about 20 feet in front of our deck is a cluster of small trees / bushes. All of sudden a coyote puppy comes walking out (my guess is about 3-6 months old), with these sleepy eyes looking around with a "who the hell is making all the noise look on his face". He just stood there for about 5 mins, then turned around and went back in to the bushes. That would be the first coyote I have seen in Chile up close. I had a look around the yard, and sure enophe there is coyote scat around from something larger than a coyote puppy. Suspect mom has den in the trees there.

My cat and my dog were sitting next to eachother at the same time on our upper balcony of our house. Kitty was "kill it kill it", and of course the puppy was "play with it, play with it". My cat is now out in the bushes hunting coyotes. They sure do not seem to be bothered by my dog, because the dog run cable is like 5 feet from the bushes.

So, anyone got a good source of species info with photos?
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Re: Coyotes Southern Chile Spieces and photos please?

Postby patagoniax » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:51 am

admin wrote: All of sudden a coyote puppy comes walking out.....

So, anyone got a good source of species info with photos?


Did it look like this?

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Because if it did look like that, it's a fox. And a lot of North Americans confuse the local foxes with the coyotes they remember.

AFAIK there are no coyotes naturally occurring south of Panamá.

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The local foxes sometimes hunt in packs and are good at controlling excess populations of small children, domestic cats, and loose dogs. They have even been known to take on young velociraptors.
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Re: Coyotes Southern Chile Spieces and photos please?

Postby admin » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:26 pm

Yea, but a pup about a quarter of the size (just slightly larger than my cat). The tail was more dog like however, but i did not get a good look at the Tail. Perhaps it was to young to really show.

My wife mentioned she seen full grown fox In The yard about a month ago.

They obviously have not met my cat. She hunts street dogs too.
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Postby admin » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:40 pm

Yea, now that I think about it, in every way almost it looked like a fox. My bias however was about the dusty color. I recall thinking the color was too bland (like the food) to be a fox. The fox I know were much more brilliant in color.
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Re: Coyotes (or fox) Southern Chile Spieces and photos pleas

Postby Michel » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:09 pm

Did it look like this?

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If it did, then it's the very rare lupus domestica canus last seen sleeping on my pillow.
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Re: Coyotes (or fox) Southern Chile Spieces and photos pleas

Postby Michel » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:19 pm

Here are three coyotes roaming the foothills above the Crystal Spring Reservoir on the San Francisco Peninsula.


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Re: Coyotes (or fox) Southern Chile Spieces and photos pleas

Postby admin » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:23 pm

Definitly not a dog. I had the split second thought that it was a lost dog, then realized it had nothing in common with a dog beyond the general canine features. My puppy however does not know the diffrence.
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Postby admin » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:33 pm

Growing up in mn we have red fox, much more dramtic colors.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mammals/redfox.html

Guess it is Chile and I will just have to learn to lower my expectations. Chile also does not have mosquitos that can bite worth a dam. So I can put up with a dusty looking fox.

This evening I will take a stab at seeing if they really have a den in the trees or that was just a visit, and if I can follow the prints across the corn field.
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Postby patagoniax » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:14 pm

admin wrote:Guess it is Chile and I will just have to learn to lower my expectations.

That is found in Chile 101.

BTW, if that fox showed a predominantly grey colour, it was probably a zorro gris, (Lycalopex griseus).
http://www.arthurgrosset.com/mammals/greyzorro.html

There is a larger fox as well, a zorro culpeo, it does have a bit of reddish colour and around this region some people call it a red fox. Further north it's sometimes called Andean wolf. They are common enough down here and some of the specimens are quite large and powerful looking. They sometimes kill sheep. They have been known to stalk people.

admin wrote: Chile also does not have mosquitos that can bite worth a dam.

But we do have tábanos. And so do you. They make up for the wussy zancudos.

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Re: Coyotes (or fox) Southern Chile Spieces and photos pleas

Postby admin » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:04 pm

Na, the dear and the horse flies back in MN would eat them too. Funny, I have never encountered any of them in any great number until last week in Chile. They were in the rasberrie bushes at the edge of the property. When I swatted them, to my suprise they actuelly went away. I was fully ready to do battle and they chickened out.
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Re: Coyotes (or fox) Southern Chile Spieces and photos pleas

Postby patagoniax » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:41 pm

admin wrote:Na, the dear and the horse flies back in MN would eat them too. Funny, I have never encountered any of them in any great number until last week in Chile. They were in the rasberrie bushes at the edge of the property. When I swatted them, to my suprise they actuelly went away. I was fully ready to do battle and they chickened out.


Sí, los tábanos son muy chilenos. Huevones picantes y valientes a escondidas, puesto al descubierto se convierten en cobardes y se arrancan.
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Re: Coyotes (or fox) Southern Chile Spieces and photos pleas

Postby greg~judy » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:59 pm

patagoniax wrote:But we do have tábanos. And so do you. They make up for the wussy zancudos.

regrets - we have no fox fotos...
but we do have a very nice, hungry fly
see that small spot of blood...?
g~ was offering it an afternoon snack!
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