Re: NAZIS AND OTHER EURO UNDESIREABLES IN CHILE

Postby Finn » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:59 am

Is the Violet Lady still alive? I read the whole thread and it was a very interesting read. It had never occurred to me before that all the key players' whereabouts were known by the governments protecting them...
Finland had a treaty with Germany during WW2. Now I am relying on my memory, hopefully getting the facts right; when it became evident that Germany is going to lose the war, we ended the treaty with them and asked them to leave the country - they had troops in Lapland. We did not want the allies to turn against us, we knew that they were after the Germans, not us. The Germans got pi**ed off and burnt every house they came across when they left. The old Laplanders still sometimes say "hide the matches" when they see Germans in Lapland.
Some Finnish women fell in love with the German solders and left with them. The legend has it that some of them were thrown overboard the ship on the way to Germany.
Now, if I may, I am posting my first ever link here, please Admin, remove it if I'm wrong in doing that.
This is our Jaegers' song, my favourite of the military marches. And my brother is a jaeger, jääkäri. :D
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Re: NAZIS AND OTHER EURO UNDESIREABLES IN CHILE

Postby patagoniax » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:22 pm

Finn wrote:Finland had a treaty with Germany during WW2. Now I am relying on my memory, hopefully getting the facts right; when it became evident that Germany is going to lose the war, we ended the treaty with them and asked them to leave the country - they had troops in Lapland. We did not want the allies to turn against us, we knew that they were after the Germans, not us. The Germans got pi**ed off and burnt every house they came across when they left. The old Laplanders still sometimes say "hide the matches" when they see Germans in Lapland.


It would be all wrong for me to amplify Finnish history provided by a Finn. But...

...From 1941 up until 1944 there had been cooperation between the Mannerheim government and Hitler to allow German troops in Lapland, to prevent the Soviets from invading in that area. This was part of what was called the Continuation War. But the Germans were not there only to stem the tide of the Soviets, but to take advantage of Finnish and northern Norwegian natural resources such as nickel. In September of 1944 and until April 1945 there was an actual war between Germany and Finland, to remove German troops from Finland. And yes the Germans employed the sort of scorched-earth policy they had seen in their earlier invasion of Russia. But the hostilities were complicated for Finland because they were still at war with the Allies due to their previous alliance with the Nazis, and Finland was also subject to a treaty to end the war with the Soviet Union, which required that Finland demobilise its armed forces. Because of that demobilisation, Finland had only a few troops to finally force the Germans out in 1945, in northern Lapland. There is lots more history there but this is not the place for it.... and nothing to do with Chile.
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Re: NAZIS AND OTHER EURO UNDESIREABLES IN CHILE

Postby patagoniax » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:06 pm

el puelche wrote:
...but pattyG, you are


Was there something wrong in that intentionally short historical summary? Differing opinion, additional details, not enough Kuchen, wrong colour ink perhaps?

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Re: NAZIS AND OTHER EURO UNDESIREABLES IN CHILE

Postby el puelche » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:45 pm

.So, every few years they come out with this to see if it has legs------so while its true that it had been thought that as many as 30k to 50k nazis made their way to South America in the aftermath of WWII and the 9k number from the secret files is somewhat lower but is some type of official count ----the real story on this will be the actual path these guys took and why they were given a pass. There is no mystery why as its was simply that they had skills valuable to where ever they were going and these skills were from the mundane to the serious and many were skills that governments will still be reluctant to talk about for a long time.

This story will really break and get interesting when a family member in South America wants to talk about it. Most likely it will with the idea to apply pressure over an inheritance that is not coming around in the "right" way, so then the denials will come, played out in public.

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