Chile Forum

mlightheart wrote:

zer0nz wrote:...
** before i took over the management of it here, it was full with home versions of compaqs, always breaking, needing repair or replacements, now we have the HP 430 and higher, our support time has decreased significantly.........

Hey zer0nz, I am bit disappointed. I thought you made all of your stuff.

If someone ordered an HP Business Class laptop from HP.com in the US and brought it to Chile, what are the chances that they could get it serviced in Chile? I can see where fast service turnaround time would be crucial.

While I like Apples, I would rather not take mine with me if I had to travel outside of Chile. The Toshiba I use for travel purposes is 4.5 years old now and is beginning to act flaky.

hahaha!, I really haven't tried the international warranty....................
You can check the status here.... http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/weInput?cc=cl&lc=en

it will tell you if you can get the USA notebook serviced in chile....

I buy all our notebooks here because its just easier.... Time vs Money, often time wins and money solves the problem! also i find HP prices are not that bad....

Andres wrote:

zer0nz wrote:Ones for consumers and designed to be used a couple of hours a day, the other is for business and designed to be used at least 8 hours a day
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By getting a HP 430 you know the parts will be here in chile.... the other home model who knows.... remember it could be sold in chile but imported unofficially mean the warranty is then from the person who imported it and not from HP chile.....

Thanks for the detail.
Please correct me if I have a misunderstanding: So, the short answer is "if you are going to depend upon your notebook, buy the HP 430 because it is more heavy-duty, therefore more reliable, and buy in Chile rather than the US to have more dependable support"?

The international support should work, but personnaly i have untested it as i have never had to....

To look at the hardware,
the HP 430 has a CPU that is about 33% more powerfull,
the Other has a Video card that is made for games, the 430 does not......

the business is made for spreadsheets etc, number crunching, the home is made for games etc.....

those prices i publishedare Wholesale, i have no idea what you would pay retail here for the same.....

i hope i havent confused you with the info! just based on my experiance :/

Andres wrote:

zer0nz wrote:i hope i havent confused you with the info! just based on my experiance :/

You have been very helpful.

I will do as you suggest. I will wait until I emigrate in February to purchase the HP 430 in Chile. I might ask you for an updated model number when I purchase in February.

In the meantime, I will attempt to get my trading software operating in a virtual machine on a desktop Linux box I will leave in Oz so I (hopefully) know how to install it on my HP 430 Linux box.

I will pass your info onto my polola, whose US company is about to purchase her a new notebook for her use in Santiago. It sounds like they should purchase her an HP 430 rather than an HP G42-468LA.

good thing is with your virutal box once its all running, you copy the VB file to your new computer and hit the boot button, no need to make the virtual machine over again!

as for the hp 430, keep with the model number i posted, there are varing sub models with different CPU options etc..... you want atleast a i3-xxxx for the CPU

HP and Dell lost my biz many years ago with trashy support an trashy hardware that needs (special) support (even in the hyped biz class). HP really lost it when a overpriced piece of crap died at the bios level one week after the warrenty expired while on a trip to Europe. They would have to give me free computers for few years to earn my respect back.

If I can not fix it, I don't buy it.

That said, I like to stick to the cheep asus eee. If it dies or is stolen, no great loss at under $300 a pop. Well supported in linux land, white boxes that when you open them up it is easy to understand what does what (HP, when they bought compaq, was all about the special screws to screw their customers). Under powered yes, but I have desktops and servers that provide horsepower. For 99.9% of everything else a netbook will due, and would much rather lug a 2.5 pound computer with me and reallly have it with me than not have a computer because I said to myself as I left home "that is too big to take with this time" or "that is too expensive to take with me".

Fedora is nice and all, but I have learned to be a bit more conservative with my must work computers. We run variants of scientific linux (recent switch from centos) or centos (servers) on everything, and they are compatiable with the fedora repositories if there is something you must have they do not provide. the bleeding edge of open source and linux distros, can leave you with a bleeding ulcer worrying about every upgrade or security patch and what it might break.

Well, I think Andres is looking at this laptop to be his main computer.

Anders, have you looked into getting a Toshiba? Don't know how the service in Chile is though.

Years back I got a Sony Vaio after my Toshiba Tecra died and had a number of issues with the Sony. Had to send the Sony in for service in California a couple of times. I was able to take the Toshiba to a local service center for repairs.

Andres wrote:
*RAM = reliability, availability, maintainability

Dell and HP in Chile:

MTTF: PDQ

MTBF = not long

MTTR = bloody ages