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El Zorro wrote:The name of the dog is who. . . .

And doubtless of the cat as well. 'Makes calling them to dinner easy. (I lived in Ethiopia for awhile, long ago. After mastering -- somewhat -- spoken Amharic, I had occasion to ask a peasant woman the name of her cat. After a moment of shock -- a ferenge who speaks Amharic? -- she replied that it was, of course, "cat". What else would one call a cat?*)


*In general, only working animals (donkeys, camels, the rare horse or ox) are -- or were -- named individually in Ethiopia.

Here is a real life street dog story on my blog with photos, from today...in Temuco:

http://www.futalandia.blogspot.com

The dog has a two-day stint at the clinic, and then he's out. If anyone knows of anyone in Temuco who would like to have this dog and give it a good home, I will have him neutered and given his shots. If not, he's had a good time, and gotten a second chance anyway. Oh, and he will have his shots, and be neutered anyway. He would be about 90 pounds if he was not starving, but right now is about 50. I don't know his disposition, but he made no attempt to snap at me, or the vet. He has ice-blue eyes, and aside from starving, he is in good shape. I cannot have another dog. I wish I could, and if I could have this one, I would name him Bypass. HIs vet bill is entirely paid, and if no one can take him, I have an evil plan....I am having a tag made with the vet's cell phone number embossed on it! So, for those who don't feel like visiting my blog to read about him, here's to Bypass!

Vicki

Vicky that was cruel. Not to the dog, but to me. She knows I am sucker for big stray street dogs. Just can not do it right now. Besides, I don't think either my wife or my cat would give me clearance under the current circumstances. Both the dog and I would be out on the street (or at least I would be).

You know my wife and I often worry about what happens to all the families with kids when they move to Chile, should something happen to their parents. I just had a related and perhaps more terrifying thought occur to me. What are we going to do with all the animals our clients acquire ( most adopted, some purchased)?

I think our score card among clients and adopted stray dogs has got to be something around a couple dozen or so right now, plus some various other animals (cats, ox, horses, cows, who knows what else).

I can just see myself 15 years from now needing to buy a 1,000 hectare ranch to store a dozen adopted gringo kids, 300 dogs, a couple hundred cats, and heard of wild horses and cows kicked in for good measure.

Charles, I sincerely wasn't targeting you for a prospective adoptive family. Lord knows you have your hands full taking care of us . What if you were walking the dog and I had an emergency because I couldn't find my cell-phone charger?!?!?!?! I just put it out there because there might be a Temuco person on the forum who has a neighbor who might want a nice dog. I also contacted the Temuco humane society organization - APCF (AGRUPACION PROTECTORA CANES Y FELINOS TEMUCO). I have the perfect place for a dog back in the Futa area, but for practical and selfish reasons, I've chosen not to get another one. I will help the local vet, love other peoples animals, but I'm done with being a pet owner...at least for awhile.

I wish the APCF (AGRUPACION PROTECTORA CANES Y FELINOS TEMUCO) had an easier site to navigate, in fact is wasn't even working yesterday or today, so I had to find them on facebook (yikes). A kind person from Punta Arenas emailed me with info on them. Good to know they have several chapters in Chile and are working on the street dog situation.

http://www.canesyfelinos.com/

Nice story and pic Vicki. My next door neighbor had rescued/adopted a street dog a while back (a year I found out). They said that it was skinny and weak when they got it. A while back around Nov-Dec, I saw this dog that lying in our yard adjacent to our side door. At first I thought the dog was dead because it was lying so still. My daughter said she had heard some yelping and barking a little while before I saw the dog. There had been a dog fight and this dog lost. I figured it was somebody's dog around here, especially since there aren't too many houses where we live. Well the dog was still alive and not really in danger of dying. I gave it some milk that I had and which it drank. It went on its way home a little while later.

Needless to say, the dog is now healthy and doing well. It is now part of the dog circus (as I like to call it) with 4 other dogs. My neighbor got the other dogs after a robbery in January at a house next to theirs. When the circus comes to town , all of the dogs are around our yard. There are three rottweilers, a boxer, and the former street dog (a german shepherd). The dogs come to get pets and attention. I don't know the names of all of the dogs, just the german shepherd which they call coyote. When it was skinny, it looked like a coyote. It has a peculiar mannerism where it will look at you and tilt its head. Which is what it did when we saw it months before. The other dogs are very young. Two of the rottweilers are puppies. I call them the twins. The boxer is a puppy also. When I say puppy, I mean not full grown. Not sure how old they are exactly, but they will get bigger. The twins are around half (?) as big as the third rottweiler which is almost full grown I think. The dogs like to vie for attention. When you try to pet one the others crowd around and want to be petted too. Sort of a free for all.

I gave them all milk once and the sound of the lapping tongues was quite noisy.

Vicki and Greg Lansen wrote:Here is a real life street dog story on my blog with photos, from today...in Temuco:

http://www.futalandia.blogspot.com

The dog has a two-day stint at the clinic, and then he's out. If anyone knows of anyone in Temuco who would like to have this dog and give it a good home, I will have him neutered and given his shots. If not, he's had a good time, and gotten a second chance anyway. Oh, and he will have his shots, and be neutered anyway. He would be about 90 pounds if he was not starving, but right now is about 50. I don't know his disposition, but he made no attempt to snap at me, or the vet. He has ice-blue eyes, and aside from starving, he is in good shape. I cannot have another dog. I wish I could, and if I could have this one, I would name him Bypass. HIs vet bill is entirely paid, and if no one can take him, I have an evil plan....I am having a tag made with the vet's cell phone number embossed on it! So, for those who don't feel like visiting my blog to read about him, here's to Bypass!

Vicki

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Hey Vicki, I just read through your blogspot after checking out the dog. If only we were staying...I would have put up a fair fight at home to take it. What an interesting read...Hats off to you guys, thats really isolated. Beautiful and did I mentioned isolated. But worth it for that salmon OMG.

Bruce, who is an invaluable Southern Chile resource sent me this email with info about APDF in Temuco:

Hi Vicky,

If you are on Facebook (isn't everybody in Chile on it?)
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group ... 7061640887
APCF (AGRUPACION PROTECTORA CANES Y FELINOS TEMUCO)

They are very active here. They also do stuff in the Plaza on Saturdays.

caio,

bruce

So, I sucked it up and went on facebook and wrote to Jonathan Jara, who wrote back within an hour:


Dear Vicky:

Thanks for writing and for taking care of this dog-friend. I have to guess that you got my e-mail address from Felipe, which is fine. In fact we are friends from many years ago and I know he loves animals. I read the whole story there at your blog and I have to say you're right; that is the big picture of the current situation of abandoned cats and dogs in Chilean cities.

Our group is called 'Agrupación Protectora Canes y Felinos' and we take care of abandoned dogs and cats, as far as we can, since we are all volunteers. We don't have a shelter or any such thing, so dogs and cats we help many times have to stay at volunteers' houses for a few days until we get homes for them.

Well, we do many things to help them each day but we are focused in getting in touch and get agreements withas many public and private institutions we can to continue helping them. Our website is not completely functional at the moment, but you can still download our e-newsletter there (at the bottom of the page), the address is http://www.canesyfelinos.com . I invite you to visit it.

I'll try to get a provisional home for this dog, but I still need to know when is the deadline to take the dog out of the vet's. Is it on Friday??

Well if you have any ideas on how to help us or you would like to talk some more about the subject of abandoned animals, feel free to contact me to canes.felinos@hotmail.com or you can give me a call to : 8 - 271 36 48 (before 7PM)

Best regards, and I hope to hear from you soon.

Jonathan Jara

I encourage anyone who is interested in getting involved, either by adopting, donating time or money, or getting the word out, to contact Jonathan. I went to visit the dog this evening. Turns out, he's about the same, and the vet on duty said that he's right around ten years old, which is OLD for a street dog. His disposition is "listless" so I don't know how it will turn out. The important thing is that people support organizations that work to change attitudes, not so much laws, but attitudes about what is acceptable...there are many cultures where they go out and just shoot street animals when the situation gets too out-of-control. Chile has a heart to some degree, but if you read Spanish, you might have read about the "round ups" and mass euthenasia. Really, spay and neuter can go a long way to extinguish the need to do things like that. Programs like APCF are working to make it safer and more humane for animals, and people.

p.s. I think I want to name the dog Chuck. (hehehhe )

p.s.s. Mardy...I could not say what this dogs' true disposition is, so he might not be a good pet. I really don't know. And he's an old guy. It's entirely possible he won't do too well, but I like that he's in a fairly warm room, out of the elements, with food and water if he wants. He might just be -as my friend used to say - plain tuckered out. He is pretty cool looking though. It was nice of you to consider the thought!

At least in my experience, old street dogs do not get to be very old unless they are smart and know who to bite and who not to bite. A little charm goes a long way to getting a free handout, and most of them have developed that fairly early.

Indeed, stray dogs either are gentle or they die young. The law of the jungle

Thank you, the human race, for "saving" us. You know better.. probably. Though we are living in our own world.. Thanks anyway..

The Dogs.

I recently pulled a dog off the cerro La Campana. I brought him home to live with my other dog, a full bred dachshund. The kiltro del cerro turns out to be much better behaved and also better wtih people. so before you think about getting that perro de raza, go take a hike and bring home a winner!

[We have a part time dog that lives at the house]

is it the callejero or the dachshund???