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by **Real State** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:24 pm

just a cultural issue americans will never understand it, quiltros are part of chile as people or more. goverment try (some years ago) to clean santiagos downtown, but a lot of people were against that. of course im against quiltros, but you cant do anyithing is many people see this as normal an good thing.

in the other hand, i never was attacked by a stray dogs, but i was attacked by home-dog twice.

by **RWS** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:41 am

I think, "Real State", that it's not so much dogs running loose that troubles North Americans and other anglophones as their malign neglect by people. I've explained that to Chilean cousins and (I believe) they not only understand that view of the matter but actually sympathize with it.

by **calgary** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:24 am

j. Ro wrote:If I had to pick on sex to fix, I would lean toward spaying all the female dogs… if you miss one male her can impregnate all the females in the area. But if you miss a female she can only have on litter every few months.

after some thought I see what you are saying and agree. The cost of neutering and spaying is probably the most expensive aspect of such a plan. Your idea of fixing just the females is likely the most cost effective. Certainly more humane than euthanizing one or both sexes.

In time: one could sympathize with all the multitudes of male dogs ... chasing after the very few remaining fertile female ones. Could in the end be a good way to find the last remaining fertile females ... looking for crowds of male dogs gathering, etc.

I chatted with a friend from an East Asian country on this topic of dog control after posting here just the other day. She said that street dogs are rarely vicious. She also pointed out, as others have here, that the killing of dogs (she indicated the use of guns) was intended to control diseases from which street dogs suffer.

I understand that some people identify with animals more than others, and there are other differences among people relating to these issues, too. I personally have a hard time conceiving of euthanizing a living being out of mercy just because it is diseased - unless it is in seriously, nearly mortifying pain. Do I have a better, less expensive or equally as costly solution? No, I do not.

-DK

by **calgary** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:32 am

Real State wrote:i never was attacked by a stray dogs, but i was attacked by home-dog twice.

AGREED!!

From reading these posts it does not sound at all like Chilean stray dogs are nearly as aggressive as many US ones. Too many times in my life my friendly dogs and I have been confronted and/or attacked by aggressive dogs. In one case my dog was attacked by a loose pit bull. THEN, two more times we were AGAIN confronted by modern American free-ranging pit bulls. Thankfully, these times we were more prepared for the little devils :shock:

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And another time I and my dog had to flee a man being dragged by his two leashed Rottweilers, snarling, chasing us.

All-in-all, I'd rather live in a neighborhood where people take care of their street animals (one way or another), than one where the people breed, buy, and "nurture" aggressive dogs which attack others on the street.

This is a bit off topic -- does anyone know to what degree Chileans sport dog fighting? On topic I could ask: how many of these "homeless" dogs are bred fighting dogs?

-DK

by **jehturner** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:49 am

j. Ro wrote:I think the government should hire a few vets and fix all the female dogs or male dogs, you really only need to do one sex. And at the same time introduce and rehabilitation and adoption program for dog on the street.

Some friends ARE doing this in La Serena. They go around campaigning and collecting money at the supermarket for neutering dogs, then they have a vet do dozens of them at once. They also take in some strays, train them and give them away (otherwise I think they just release them neutered). They actually seem to be somewhat successful.

Yes, peoples' pet dogs hurling themselves at you and salivating every couple of doors as you walk down the street are a pain.

James.

by **Real State** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:37 pm

calgary wrote:
Real State wrote:i never was attacked by a stray dogs, but i was attacked by home-dog twice.

AGREED!!

From reading these posts it does not sound at all like Chilean stray dogs are nearly as aggressive as many US ones. Too many times in my life my friendly dogs and I have been confronted and/or attacked by aggressive dogs. In one case my dog was attacked by a loose pit bull. THEN, two more times we were AGAIN confronted by modern American free-ranging pit bulls. Thankfully, these times we were more prepared for the little devils .

And another time I and my dog had to flee a man being dragged by his two leashed Rottweilers, snarling, chasing us.

All-in-all, I'd rather live in a neighborhood where people take care of their street animals (one way or another), than one where the people breed, buy, and "nurture" aggressive dogs which attack others on the street.

This is a bit off topic -- does anyone know to what degree Chileans sport dog fighting? On topic I could ask: how many of these "homeless" dogs are bred fighting dogs?

-DK

there are some dog fights but they use rottweilers, not quiltros.

by **admin** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:00 pm

I don't think any of the animals are bred for anything. There just street dogs. Either born wild, or pets that are let loose.

The problem with the street dogs are not the dogs individually, but dogs forming packs with either no fear of humans or chip on their shoulder against humans. Which really can not blame them for that. I still prefer dogs over humans myself (nothing personal guys). I would still rather be chased by a pack of wild dogs, than a pack of wild humans.

by **RuneTheChookcha** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:25 pm

admin wrote:I still prefer dogs...

by **admin** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:12 pm

by **RuneTheChookcha** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:24 pm

by **RWS** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:57 pm

"Whom". "Who bites whom?"

This guidance brought you courtesy of the Group for Use of English.

by **El Zorro** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:54 pm

The name of the dog is who.

BTW, who's on first?

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