Chile Forum

Or... quite the opposite.In a negative way.

Like in :"pinochet dejó la escoba con los derechos humanos"
I think that you can use this , after a negative fac, in which you needed a escoba(broom) to clean up the mess.

after 5+ years in chile I still have no idea how to use "po" or "wevon" correctly, so I don't.

That is why moved to southern chile. you almost will not ever encounter the jargon of the central region in southern chile. Examples would be "po" and "wevon" (not sure how to spell it). They are much more formal and slow as you go south. Start in the south and work your way north. Much better for learning spanish.

The myth I get a kick out of from Chiloe is the mysterious creature called the Trauko that knocks-up young girls and wives while dad is away at sea.

Funny that it happens so much in the Chiloe's culture that they had to invent a myth. Plenty of other cultures have loose lonely women, but very few come up with a mysterious creature to cover for it. Now it is sold as a tourist attraction as the "Routa de Trauko" I see painted on buses and signs near Chiloe.

I found this excellent site on Chiloe, although it may be a bit antiquated. The site is digitally streamed video and audio. There is a section on the history and mythology of Chiloe.

cutandpaste: http://www.chiloestories.org/home.html

For those who listen to shortwave I will post a site for Art Bells SW receiver with streaming audio. I am not sure if they transmit in Chile's direction. It would be interesting to know if you are able to receive Art in Chile or for that matter any world wide reception. I know there is a web site for Art Bell listening, however he is a licensed ham radio operator which is one of my hobbies. There is just something about receiving a signal from thousands of miles away that has always appealed to me. Just wanted to mention I like to build my own shortwave receivers and they are my own design - keeps me out of trouble.

cutandpaste: http://www.smeter.net/pahrump/audio.php

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I thought art bell was dead. I use to listen to him when I lived in Las Vegas. Last sighting was with Elvis at Caesar's Palace.

I think the CIA is rebroadcasting him just to keep all the conspiracy theorist entertained to save money on their UFO hot line.

I did'nt know he was dead. I really do not keep up with the UFO thing. I do not believe in them. However I did find some of the topics several years back interesting that he presented or was presented to him.

I do not believe we have been visited by exterrestrials however I do believe in the existence of life on other planets. The distances between the stars are so great that the technology required to travel within a reasonable amount of time would almost be impossible.

I do like the extraterrestrial photo and it does look like Beavis, I got a kick out of that.

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It is difficult to refute that which cannot be proven to exist. So that to say evidence is proof does not complete an argument without a conclusion. Therefore I would say the claims are beliefs or speculation.

My background is Physics and that is why I believe the way I do. First the distances are to great without spending centuries in travel perhaps losing direction for whatever reason (lack of objective or objectives lost or changing objectives). To harness any quantum mechanical knowlege to travel in an instance requires knowledge we do not understand, but with what we do understand the energies would be enormous.

When I was young I was caught up in the UFO fad of the time. This interest led me into physics not the sole reason. Now I am not a subject matter expert I have not been working physics. These are beliefs I developed and concluded over many years. There are scientist the late Carl Sagan who I had read that influenced these beliefs amoung others. I do know that amoung the worlds elite physicist of all branches it is not well accepted the fact that we have been visited.

It is interesting about the hot/cold thing you mentioned I get this from my wife (South America) also.

Regards

EEU, I certainly can believe what you are saying about individuals wanting to keep things to themselves. Especially when it comes to strange phenomonon.

I certainly had a part in the straying. My apologies for my part on this topic.

El Puelche that is an interesting quip about the beliefs on looking at the moon.
I would like to know more about these mythologies.

EMPACHADO

"uf, estas empachado...acuestate boca bajo para sacarte el empacho"

When i was camping with some friends near Icalma east of Temuco, i got really sick to the stomach. One of my friends told me i was empachado. (i think english equivalent would be 'all stopped up' or constipated). He would lay me down on my stomach and pull up on the skin and tissue or my lumbar back region and get it to pop. He said yea, because it "popped" you're empachado...but now you'll be better.

haha i'm not sure where that came from or how getting my lower back to pop would help my stomach out, but it's a belief.

Another crazy thing that my same friend would do is water witching...that was cool cuz it really worked and he's found around 80 different water sources for wells around the outskirts of temuco.

PESADO

pronounced "pesaaa'o"

literal meaning is "heavy", but in chilenismo it mean's "aw, you lucky dog"

>>"i've got the whole week off and am gonna go to the beach"

>>"awww pesaaa'o.....i wanna go!"

P.S. i'm not sure if this is country wide, but was used frequently by all my friends in and around temuco....

In the Pelena region they do not say "Choa" so much. They say CHI-ITO.

I am working on collecting a few more of the local words, as Pelena and Futa have strong influences from Argentina and generally have been isolated completely from influences of Santiago and the Central region. Many of the words and expressions listed on this thread ( like "Po" ) will almost never be used in this region, and it instantly marks someone in a conversation as being from the outside.

The Spanish here is far slower, clearer, and more formal. Great for learning, because people have time to figure out what you are saying. They will talk to you all day if needed.

There is no high school in Futaleufu. So, teens are sent as far away as Puerto Mont to go to private schools in the winter (Yes, Futa is a real paradise. No teenagers!!! ). When they come back in the summer it is funny to hear how different they talk from everyone else in the town. After a month or so, their lingo has started getting more local again.

I hear 'po' quite a bit at the end of a sentence. I hear 'cachai?' a lot too. Today I heard 'chao pescado.'