Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby zer0nz » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:09 pm

Aedmunds wrote:The very last thing it has in the intructions document: http://www.extranjeria.gov.cl/ingles/fi ... ingles.pdf

Is this: "If your are a specialized technician or professional that will work in Chile and is affiliated to de
pension fund or Social Security in your country, request for SC-5." Is this something to do with what you guys are talking about? I don't see any other need for getting my degree legalized...



If you want to withdraw your pension fund when you return you must have a degree...... stupid law, mine is stuck here for life, i dont mind, i kinda plan on being here for a long time and seems like a good investment anyway

there is also another law that you can initiate from the beggining, you can sign a deceleration that you are taking care of your own pension fund requirements in your own country and your employer will pass the pension fund to that scheme, it is open to any "gringo" a degree is not required for that... i have a template for this deceleration if you need it/want it

i also have a template for the subject to contract contract required for the visa if you want it, most chilean companies have no idea how this works,

Ill put the disclaimer, i will not guarantee these to work, i have used them my self without a problem,
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby Steph » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:18 pm

maybe that's why we've had to submit BH's degrees then, to get the pension fund back when we leave?
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby Met0069 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:25 pm

Hi all, a quick question re permenencia definitiva. In the requirement doument ( http://www.extranjeria.gov.cl/filesapp/PD3%20ISO.pdf) part D there is a section on DOCUMENTACION PARA ACREDITAR ACTIVIDAD E INGRESOS , how important is this section ? I have a friend who has not worked but has access to funds in the US, so at present none of the parts 1 to 5 apply to him. Can he just provide ATM slips or a internet bank statement showing he can access funds. He has 45 days left to apply , so an prompt reply will help a great deal.Thanks
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby Met0069 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:26 pm

Hi all, a quick question re permenencia definitiva. In the requirement doument ( http://www.extranjeria.gov.cl/filesapp/PD3%20ISO.pdf) part D there is a section on DOCUMENTACION PARA ACREDITAR ACTIVIDAD E INGRESOS , how important is this section ? I have a friend who has not worked but has access to funds in the US, so at present none of the parts 1 to 5 apply to him. Can he just provide ATM slips or a internet bank statement showing he can access funds. He has 45 days left to apply , so an prompt reply will help a great deal.Thanks
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby T_ROBO » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:14 am

I am an engineer too :-) and never had to submit anything (diplomas) when I first entered Chile under the visa subjected to work contract. The consulates handled everything that I submitted (an application, letter from FBI certifying clear record, letter from medical doctor certifying perfect health, letter from their bank certifying that I deposited the correct fee to their account :-), legal contract from Chile) and issued the visa. My employer later requested the diplomas as proof of credential and accepted an electronic letter from an independent agency handling the transcripts for US universities (which I posted on this forum some time ago) certifying all the degrees that I had.

When I applied for permanent residence, I had to submit legalized copies of my diplomas. Each of my actual diplomas (from Rice University in Houston) was printed on a large piece (22" by 28", I believe) of real sheepskin and it was impractical to legalize them and submit them to Santiago. My lawyer (who was a former classmate at Rice) advised me to do photocopies of the diplomas into the letter size papers, and type on of each copy a statement representing an affidavit of true copy as follows:

Affidavit of True Copy
State of ___________________ County of __________________
I, __________________________, certify that this is a true, correct, and complete photocopy that I made of________________________________________

_________________________
Signature

Subscribed and sworn to before me this____day of______,20____,by__________

______________________________
Notary Signature

After getting the copies notarized, I sent them to Austin to get a letter from the Secretary of State to certify the copies of the diplomas (the instruction and application form to request this letter are listed on the website of the Secretary of State of Texas). I took this letter and the notarized copies of the diplomas to the Chilean consulates in Houston and they posted a legal stamp on them. Santiago accepted these legalized documents and later approved my permanent residence.

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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby Aedmunds » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:16 am

Anyone Canadian that can help me out with this one?? I need to provide proof of pension so that I can keep paying pension into my Canadian Pension Plan instead of using the Chilean system and then getting a refund at the end. This is how the lawyer described what I need... does anyone know what documents I should be getting?

**More than a copy of your social security contributions, what we really
need is a certificate, from your Canadian social security system, that
states your affiliation to that system, which covers you in cases of
illness, disability, old age and death.***
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby admin » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:40 am

T_ROBO wrote:I am an engineer too :-) and never had to submit anything (diplomas) when I first entered Chile under the visa subjected to work contract. The consulates handled everything that I submitted (an application, letter from FBI certifying clear record, letter from medical doctor certifying perfect health, letter from their bank certifying that I deposited the correct fee to their account :-), legal contract from Chile) and issued the visa. My employer later requested the diplomas as proof of credential and accepted an electronic letter from an independent agency handling the transcripts for US universities (which I posted on this forum some time ago) certifying all the degrees that I had.

When I applied for permanent residence, I had to submit legalized copies of my diplomas. Each of my actual diplomas (from Rice University in Houston) was printed on a large piece (22" by 28", I believe) of real sheepskin and it was impractical to legalize them and submit them to Santiago. My lawyer (who was a former classmate at Rice) advised me to do photocopies of the diplomas into the letter size papers, and type on of each copy a statement representing an affidavit of true copy as follows:

Affidavit of True Copy
State of ___________________ County of __________________
I, __________________________, certify that this is a true, correct, and complete photocopy that I made of________________________________________

_________________________
Signature

Subscribed and sworn to before me this____day of______,20____,by__________

______________________________
Notary Signature

After getting the copies notarized, I sent them to Austin to get a letter from the Secretary of State to certify the copies of the diplomas (the instruction and application form to request this letter are listed on the website of the Secretary of State of Texas). I took this letter and the notarized copies of the diplomas to the Chilean consulates in Houston and they posted a legal stamp on them. Santiago accepted these legalized documents and later approved my permanent residence.

TP



Yea, you got lucky, and that was mostly because of the people accepting it were ignorant of how legalization worked. Granted in most cases, in chile, most people will not have a clue. However, if for example some person tried for something like a property purchase or other critical thing, it would not be valid legalization under chilean law.

The need to legalize diplomas normally only applies to profesions that need to be licensed such as doctors and such.
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby nwdiver » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:29 pm

Aedmunds wrote:Anyone Canadian that can help me out with this one?? I need to provide proof of pension so that I can keep paying pension into my Canadian Pension Plan instead of using the Chilean system and then getting a refund at the end. This is how the lawyer described what I need... does anyone know what documents I should be getting?

**More than a copy of your social security contributions, what we really
need is a certificate, from your Canadian social security system, that
states your affiliation to that system, which covers you in cases of
illness, disability, old age and death.***



That doesn't exsist, get your iron ring ceds notarized by the consulate, enter on a tourist visa move to a visa subject to contract with the added note you are a Professional Engineer, as a Professional you get to deal with the pension question as a Professional (they leave you alone to sort it out). The consulate in Vancouver was good, I never use it for anything anymore. How will you be paying into your CPP, is your income being paid in Canada or are you doing an RRSP contribution from afar? Be careful with that. The disability, illness and death part are by way of a private health insurance policy your Canadian Medicare disappears 3 months after you leave and is a pain to deal with should you need it in those 3 months (like pay out of pocket and “in person” submission of bills after an assessment by a Doctor in your home province, it’s for tourists), get a 4 month travel policy then on arrival set up a private health policy in Chile.
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby tollyda » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:17 pm

Hi:

I am an Indian national in the US, and would be travelling to Chile for work. Unfortunately I am going with a group of Americans, and our agent goofed up. At the last moment he pointed out that I could not do the tourist visa and then reciprocate to a work visa after getting there.

At the moment, I am trying to get a hold of agents to get my visa going as work aint going to stop without me. What is the due process for a foreign national in the US to get a work permit in Chile. Is there a list of countries whose citizens can directly do the work visa while in Chile? And is there a rush method/ urgent processing method for my particular case. I have employment and residence papers in order.

Feel free to forward me to a link where this has already been explained. The Embassy website was not of much help.
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby rachelmarama » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:05 am

You need to go to the nearest Chilean Embassy (or ring them, you may be able to do it via post) and apply for a visa. I'm not sure about the rules around you going down this track to get a Tourist Visa and then trying the in country method for a work visa, but I recommend you contact the admin of this site, on the number below, for advice.

This is a list of countries that can get a Tourist Visa on entry: http://www.gochile.cl/guias/guia-chile/ ... lados.html

I'm not sure Chile cares much about country of residence, only citizenship, in which case your US papers are not relevant.
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Re: Visa Issues - Advice Needed

Postby admin » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:26 am

Generally the rule we have is that we do not handle any temp, work, or permanent visa for any country that is only issued a 30 day tourist visa. One, it is a practical issue of the 30 days is just not sufficient to do the paperwork and they are often under various restrictions to apply through the consulate. Two, they tend to also have a high rate of people wanting to engage in human trafficking or other criminal activity. For every legit client we might capture from one of those countries, we have to waist a mountain of time sorting out criminals. Very high risk, and very little in it for us. Not our market.
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