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Re: How to Retain Permanent Residency

Postby nwdiver » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:04 pm

Dosedmonkey wrote:My girlfriend was told the same, she had to give up her citizenship, but it is possible, that Peru still does not allow dual citizenships on its passport, as it is only a list of countries that allow it I do believe. Although I could be missunderstanding the whole thing still.



She would have a second Chilean passport, nothing is in her Peruvian passport.

The big 3 were US, Japan and Germany that didn’t allow dual citizenship, well all tolerate it now. The one that is very tight these days is China and I know many many with Chinese and Canadian passports, Canada has always allowed dual citizenship and notes so in the passport.
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Re: How to Retain Permanent Residency

Postby MercyMe » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:14 pm

"However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship." from the US EMBASSY page. So, I am voluntarily applying for Chilean citizenship but do not want to give up my U.S. citizenship, therefore I can maintain a dual citizenship until Uncle Sam says no or I try to collect Social Security. Not to mention the USA embassy is essentially distributing a very long string of misinformation. This is the reason why people like me need the type of immigration services your business supplies 8)
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Re: How to Retain Permanent Residency

Postby admin » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:39 pm

Yea, notice how they carefully worded that to make it sound like you instantly loose your citizenship, while downplaying the "..with the intention" of giving up your citizenship.

The supreme court decisions were directly addressing this issue, because someone signed a paper in another country affirming their allegiance to mexico. The U.S. government then tried to say that was the same as intending to give up their U.S. citizenship.

I bet you the IRS plays the other side of that coin all the time when they are collecting taxes on people with dual citizenship. Especially people that were born to U.S. citizens, but never otherwise did anything to be American citizens (e.g. born to american parents, or on American territory, but otherwise spent their life as some other type of citizen).
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Re: How to Retain Permanent Residency

Postby admin » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:52 pm

You know what is really interesting is they now charge like over $500 US to renounce your citizenship, plus you got to show something like 10 years of payed taxes. So they don't seem to make accidentally or intentionally loosing your citizenship easy, but make it sound like you could if you sneezed wrong.
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Re: How to Retain Permanent Residency

Postby nwdiver » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:57 pm

admin wrote:Yea, notice how they carefully worded that to make it sound like you instantly loose your citizenship, while downplaying the "..with the intention" of giving up your citizenship.

The supreme court decisions were directly addressing this issue, because someone signed a paper in another country affirming their allegiance to mexico. The U.S. government then tried to say that was the same as intending to give up their U.S. citizenship.

I bet you the IRS plays the other side of that coin all the time when they are collecting taxes on people with dual citizenship. Especially people that were born to U.S. citizens, but never otherwise did anything to be American citizens (e.g. born to american parents, or on American territory, but otherwise spent their life as some other type of citizen).


Canada Revenue makes it very hard to be a foreign resident, short of a foreign citizenship it is difficult, BUT try to collect something from them it becomes “you sir are a foreign resident”. In Canada it’s residency not citizenship, they are never going to chase tax dollars from foreign residents.
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Re: How to Retain Permanent Residency

Postby MercyMe » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:04 pm

Gotta love bureaucrats!! Always finding ways to make a buck.
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