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I'm wondering what forum members know about Comet Elenin.

There is also YU55 Nov 8-9

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An interesting celestial season

Estimado Kel,

A search of "Elenin" on the forum indicates only you and I are watching this celestial event.

Saludos,

RCX

There are some bizarre coincidences about the name of this comet. It was named after the Russian Astronomer who discovered it--yet the name is an abbreviation for its perigee. ie, 9/11 is its perigee and nin ele is its name (and the name of the discovering scientist). (Most countries of the world put the month before the day when listing a date) What are the odds of this?

Yes indeed, what are the odds? Close to zilch. And that would suggest healthy skepticism is needed. There's a lot of controversy about this guy, his real identity, his credentials vs, say, an astrophysicist. Since there's so much disinformation and psyops out there, be certain to thoroughly explore all angles and sources. It's hard to trust anything anymore, isn't it? This elenin stuff may or may not be true - I'm not arguing for or against - just that it's good to explore all avenues. And trust your instincts.

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"[Comets] make these long, majestic, speedy arcs through our solar system, and sometimes they put on a great show. But not Elenin. Right now that comet looks kind of wimpy."

"Comet Elenin will not only be far away, it is also on the small side for comets. "And comets are not the most densely-packed objects out there. They usually have the density of something akin to loosely packed icy dirt. So you've got a modest-sized icy dirtball that is getting no closer than 35 million kilometers. It will have an immeasurably miniscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean's tides than comet Elenin ever will."

//NASA Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

NASA defines wimpy here:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-135

uhmm, we were also in alignment with the sun, the moon, the pink elephants were flying, I was present in Chile, the Chile forum had exactly 2,100 registered users, it was a sunny day somewhere, PX was grumbling about something, .....

All during those earthquakes. Not seeing the connection.

My finest reductio ad absurdum yet; then also that one came with a bullseye painted on it.

admin wrote:uhmm, we were also in alignment with the sun, the moon, the pink elephants were flying, I was present in Chile, the Chile forum had exactly 2,100 registered users, it was a sunny day somewhere, PX was grumbling about something, .....

All during those earthquakes. Not seeing the connection.

My finest reductio ad absurdum yet; then also that one came with a bullseye painted on it.

That is just it! There is yet, no plausible explanation! But for some reason each time this whimpy comet, the sun, and earth come into an alignment, there is a big earthquake. The first time it happened, Chile had its big quake. You could say that was coincidence. When the second alignment occurred, ChristChurch New Zeland had its big earthquake. Again, you could say just coincidence. But when the third alignment alignment happened and Japan was nearly washed away by its big earthquake, you start to question coincidence. If these were just small garden variety earthquakes, your argument would hold. ie that earthquakes are always happening and therefore when the alignment happened an earthquake would certainly be happening somewhere. But at least two of these earthquakes (Japan and Chile) were in the top 10 ever--and certainly the strongest in the last few years. Yet here is a celestial event that coincided with all three quakes (and didn't occur at any other time). Does this prove there is a causation? No. But that doesn't make a possible association absurd.

What makes it absurd is that there is no more reason to point to that one event, than any of the others that also happened to be true at the time of the earthquake without some greater explanation for why in particular that one event is special over the rest.

Don't get me wrong, inspite of the what the experts say, I do believe the stress on the tectonic plates from the Earths interaction with other bodies does have something to do with earthquakes. I just have a hard time buying that a little comet has sufficient mass to pull it off. Perhaps if there was some sort of explanation along the lines of magnification effect or perhaps it interrupts a normal gravitational pull by another body I might be a little more inclined to give that theory a spin around the old imagination.

Maybe some shooting stars will be visible

Hi Kel, thanks for the interesting topic.