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bolivia looking to pick a fight

Postby admin » Sun May 01, 2011 11:55 am

Morales possibly looking to pick a fight with Chile:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/29/2 ... -turn.html

You can measure how much trouble any of the neighboring governments are in by the fights they pick with Chile. When things are going good for them, their is hardly a mention of Chile. When things are going bad, Chile is the source of all the problems.
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Postby Gringo Pillo » Sun May 01, 2011 12:52 pm

I talked about this a while back with Chilean amogos. They didnt seem to be concerned at all. Bolivians have done this before and will do again. Its obvious that a case like this will not win in any international court.

This is a good example of a latin american country of living in the past instead of in thw moment ( Basta las Historias!!)
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Re: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/29/2194772/bolivia-ch

Postby patagoniax » Sun May 01, 2011 1:23 pm

I noticed that the formerly Chilean musical group Inti Illimani has once again risen to new offenses against Chile in its support of these vacuous Bolivian pretensions. No surprise, considering that the group names itself after a Bolivian location.

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Postby JHyre » Sun May 01, 2011 1:32 pm

Perhaps Chile could use some nice natural gas...if Bolivia were to get frisky (extraorinarily unlikely), I know where they could get some....

If you want to have some fun, suggest to a Chilean that Arica, etc were simply "borrowed" for a little while. Never fails to get my wife sputtering angry. Good, clean fun. Until she suggests that Texas, etc were also "borrowed" & sputtering comes from the other direction. :)

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Postby rasmataz » Sun May 01, 2011 4:21 pm

Why would anyone in their right mind allow the largest coca producer in the world to have a seaport?
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Postby PenquistaDeCorazon » Sun May 01, 2011 5:55 pm

patagoniax wrote:I noticed that the formerly Chilean musical group Inti Illimani has once again risen to new offenses against Chile in its support of these vacuous Bolivian pretensions. No surprise, considering that the group names itself after a Bolivian location.

http://www.emol.com/noticias/magazine/d ... cia=478363

You are correct. The name was given to them by Eulogio Dávalos. He has some Bolivian roots. He is my father's cousin. My dad says his grandfather was from Bolivia. We all have the nose to prove it.

Have to agree with admin...... Politics once again. If Chile were to give Bolivia back part of northern Chile then who knows what would follow? Texas back to Mexico? I know.... Wishful thinking on my part....
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Re: bolivia looking to pick a fight

Postby admin » Sun May 01, 2011 7:31 pm

Sorry about the title.

My solution has always been to create a free trade zone covering the whole boarder, and let bolivia and peru fight the property line out in to the ocean.
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Re: bolivia looking to pick a fight

Postby El Chupacabra » Sun May 01, 2011 8:06 pm

Jeez, I hope Bolivia dosen't attack Chile with their cessna!
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Re: bolivia looking to pick a fight

Postby patagoniax » Sun May 01, 2011 8:19 pm

El Chupacabra wrote:Jeez, I hope Bolivia dosen't attack Chile with their cessna!


And let's not forget the new "culturally correct" uniforms for the Bolitas.

News item:

LA PAZ-Las Fuerzas Armadas de Bolivia lucirán a partir de 2010 nuevos uniformes de diseño nacional con símbolos de todas las culturas indígenas del país andino-amazónico, informó hoy el ministro de Defensa, Walker San Miguel.

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Meanwhile, dance lessons will continue in the older uniforms

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Re: bolivia looking to pick a fight

Postby greg~judy » Mon May 02, 2011 10:24 am

just as a bit of a tangent...
our good friend Evo is flexing his muscles on broader fronts
picking a few farther flung fights with int'l miners...
to wit...

President Morales annuls mining, banking and investment laws in Bolivia

Bolivian President Evo Morales Sunday announced the Bolivian government will end current mining, banking and investment laws to increase state control of those sectors.

Official Bolivian news agency ABI reported Sunday President Evo Morales issued a decree that would bury 20 years of neoliberalism in the nation's mining industry.

Essentially Morales is ending market rule and privatization of mines contained in Supreme Decree 21060, which was enacted in 1985 by former Bolivian President Victor Paz Estensoro.

Morales also annulled laws pertaining to banking and investment in order to increase state control of those sectors.

"The best legacy of the Bolivian people is to be anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist and anti-neoliberal," he declared.

At a special Workers Day ceremony Sunday miners burned a black box symbolizing the end of the old mining legislation.

At a mass rally Sunday in the Coliseum in Huanuni, Bolivian Vice President Alvaro Garcia Linera urged Huanuni miners to "take control" of the leadership of the Miners' Federation to promote state mining and economic activity in Bolivia. He also called on miners to "preserve and protect" the struggles of indigenous peoples, workers and peasants which "form the backbone of our country."

Last month Bolivian mining unions asked the state to "recover" the silver, zinc, lead and tin mines currently operated by private companies.

However, Deputy Mining Minister Hector Cordova told Bloomberg that a new mining bill to be sent to the Bolivian Congress won't substantially change contract conditions for Coeur d'Alene Mines, which operates the nation's largest pure silver mine, San Bartolome; Pan America Silver's San Vincente silver mine; and Orvana Minerals.

Nevertheless, he said the government will seek to renegotiate contracts with Glencore International, whose Sinchi Wayra subsidiary controls five small and medium-size mines in Bolivia, including Porco, and will sign a contract with Sumitomo Metal Mining, which operates the San Cristobal silver-lead-zinc mine.

Cordova told Bloomberg that the new legislation is aimed at giving state miner Comibol a controlling interest in joint ventures and forces companies to return mining concessions which aren't being developed.

Meanwhile, the new mining law will require mining companies "to pay a little more in royalties because metals prices have risen," he added.


but then, g~j are not too worried...
(although the news may have had a wee bit off effect on today's drop in Ag phizz price???)
no problema, g~j hold no positions in the aforementioned companies...
we have no specific stock plays in Evo~land...
our So-Am Ag~Au jr. plays are mostly in peru and argentina
(sorry chile... nada - :( )
so - go for it Evo... charge them western capitalists mo-fo's a higher royalty...
and put a bit more in bolivia's coffers - y~not - suerte :idea:
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Re: Cholivia looking to pick a fight

Postby patagoniax » Tue May 31, 2011 2:32 am

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The head of the Chilean defence department, Andrés Allamand, had some strong words for Cholivia yesterday (Monday):

I want to make it clear to the Chilean nation, said Allamand, that they should view these bolivian moves with complete calm. Chile is a solid fortress. In this sense it is a country that is united, that has at its disposal all the necessary rights and protection under international law, and finally, its armed forces are well known to be professional and well prepared, ready to force respect for international treaties, and to adequately protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Chile.

¿ Por la razón, o la fuerza?

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Re: bolivia looking to pick a fight

Postby jessicak1234 » Tue May 31, 2011 2:57 am

My husband was in Arica a few months ago visiting family and he went to the beach and saw some people crying. He asked if they were okay. They were Bolivian and crying because they don't have the ocean. I thought that was quite a dramatic reaction. At the time I did not realize that Bolivia had coast line in the past. Once I learned that I still thought it was a bit over the top. Viva Chile.
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