Chile Forum

PenquistaDeCorazon wrote:I guess this is where PX says.
Welcome to Chile. Here.... Have a dropped call.

You say the sweetest things.

zer0nz wrote:

apple = axis of evil, wheres bush when yo need him!

agreed, but today's release suggests that some still have not gotten the word

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Apple Inc's results smashed Wall Street's expectations after iPhone and Mac sales scaled new heights while iPad supplies could not keep up with roaring global demand.

patagoniax wrote:some still have not gotten the word

And we know where they are
http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/apple- ... cking.html

otravers wrote:

patagoniax wrote:some still have not gotten the word

And we know where they are
http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/apple- ... cking.html

Yup. Most cell phone/user locations can be tracked while user has device powered on. Some presumed to be powered off can be turned on remotely without user knowledge for the purpose of tracking. So if you're paranoid, remove the battery.

PatX, yes most phones can be tracked, but this IPhone thing is worse. It stores a file of all locations where the phone has been on a file on the phone. This means that if someone has physically access to either the phone or the computer it is linked with, you can gain access to the file and know the whereabouts of the person. In other words, if you have an Iphone, give me 5 minutes and I can know everywhere you've been.

Ripsigg wrote:PatX, yes most phones can be tracked, but this IPhone thing is worse. It stores a file of all locations where the phone has been on a file on the phone. This means that if someone has physically access to either the phone or the computer it is linked with, you can gain access to the file and know the whereabouts of the person. In other words, if you have an Iphone, give me 5 minutes and I can know everywhere you've been.

I understand and I agree with you completely, and if it is outrage you are suggesting then I share that outrage. But I wanted to add a little more reason for others to feel some additional outrage, particularly those who thought that turning off the cell phone provided some degree of assured relief from tracking. Taint so. Lots of reasons I don't carry a cell phone. Mostly because I am too stupid to operate one effectively.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20056344-281.html

Law enforcement agencies have known since at least last year that an iPhone or iPad surreptitiously records its owner's location, and have used that geolocation data to aid criminal investigations.

Apple has never publicized the undocumented feature buried deep within the software that operates iPhones and iPads, which became the topic of criticism earlier this week after a researcher at a conference in Santa Clara, Calif. described in detail how it works. Apple had acknowledged to Congress last year only that "cell tower and Wi-Fi access point information" is "intermittently" collected and "transmitted to Apple" every 12 hours.

At least some Android phones also store location information, Magnus Eriksson, a Swedish programmer, told CNET today, albeit for a shorter time. And research by another security analyst suggests that "virtually all Android devices" send some of those coordinates back to Google.

Among computer forensics specialists, those location logs -- which record cell tower coordinates and time stamps and cannot easily be disabled by someone who wants to use location services -- are not merely an open secret. They've become a valuable sales pitch when targeting customers in police, military, and intelligence agencies.

The U.K-based company Forensic Telecommunications Services Ltd. advertises its iXAM product as able to "extract GPS location fixes" from an iPhone 3GS including "latitude, longitude, altitude and time." Its literature boasts: "These are confirmed fixes--they prove that the device was definitely in that location at that time." Another mobile forensics company, Cellebrite, brags that its products can pluck out geographical locations derived from both "Wi-Fi and cell tower" signals.............

Location via cell phone signals is relatively well known, even for cell phones believed to be turned off and for apparently anonymous-ownership phones. Some have believed that satellite phones would be immune from such vulnerability.

Consider the case of Dzhokhar Musayevich Dudayev, the Chechen leader who was targeted whilst talking on a satellite phone. The simple version of the story was that "Russian reconnaissance planes in the area had been monitoring satellite communications for quite some time trying to match Dudayev's voice signature to the existing samples of his speech." and "Dudayev was killed on April 21, 1996, by two laser-guided missiles when he was using a satellite phone, after his location was detected by a Russian reconnaissance aircraft, which intercepted his phone call." There is widespread speculation that the Russians had some help from the Clinton administration in the process for interception and sufficiently precise geolocation. But the concept of voice recognition via either satellite or cell phones that are presumed to be anonymously owned, and corresponding transmission-location capabilities, makes most citizens just pins on a map. The technology and access may be restricted today, but perhaps not for long.

Nothing to do with Chile, really.

http://lifehacker.com/5818047/google-ma ... -countries

hacking your android phone to allow google maps navigation to work in unsupported countries... like chile.....

i havent tried it yet because i brought NDrive Chile that does the job (mas o menos)

I don't use Android phones but how about a few questions about Apple's iphones?
Intending to travel to Chile-Argentine, _Un futuro cercano_ I have an iphone.
Could I or find some one,some phone store clerks in Chile and pay them/him to have my
iphone unlocked and buy a Chilean "SIM" card and be able to use that chip there?
Or should I have some one here in the stateside, unlock my phone.? Any input will be greately appreciated!