Chile Forum

EL P wrote exactly what I was thinking or hoping:
Having your own ranch in Chile that firstly supports your family's needs in the way of shelter and food can be done and it can be done whether the dollar goes up or down---50 hectars could do it---in fact you could do it on half that. It would be easier to ride out a dollar disaster in Chile too---its most likely the only place of a few that you would be actually able to grow and move forward what you have---the population is behind in all things down by 20 to 50 years there, and they still know how to do it the old way---without all the crap monsanto, pfzer-bayer and john deere have been selling us on all these years----you can support yourself on what you can grow and provide and even trade with others. Now are there farms and ranches in North America, where this could be done? Sure, but when it gets bad, there is a lot of population coming your way and they won't take no for an answer---Chile is not densely populated--- in fact there are just enough to get things done---there is no nuke plant to go off and pollute everthing, no terror targets---its just country and its protected on all four sides by natural geographic barriers.

So when the dollar is not doing something crazy you are building your farm---you won't make tons of money and might only break even---but you won't go hungry and what you eat is going to be the best there is---there is so much thought about having to just kill it where ever you go and have the mercedes tractor, the chicks and all the cash going to clubs everynight---but it doesn't have to be that way---

Steven DC wrote
Sydan, I have spent 4 years analyzing not only where to go, but more importantly, why?

I would love to have 4 years of analyzing , however I doubt I have 4 years before things get real bad here. http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/zawahiri-weapons-mass-destruction/2011/02/14/id/386055
In the ideal world I would like to be down there for 2 years to be established, make friends, know language, and figure out what I am doing. Before things get bad, but I doubt that will happen.
The lights only came on in my head about 2 months ago and all the info to take in is rather overwhelming. But I need to remember it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon lin, line upon line, here a little, there a little.

Sydan

My suggestion is to find the area in Chile that you would like to live in, go to the Notaria and ask one of the older ladies working there what the prices of land are going for in the various sectors and then start looking. This can be done without a corredor de propiedades but you will need someone that speaks castellano chileno to to be the initial contact and get the wheel going. It will take time. Up to a year but don't get discouraged because there is good land available.

sydan wrote:I would love to have 4 years of analyzing , however I doubt I have 4 years before things get real bad here. http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/zawahir ... /id/386055
In the ideal world I would like to be down there for 2 years to be established, make friends, know language, and figure out what I am doing. Before things get bad, but I doubt that will happen.
The lights only came on in my head about 2 months ago and all the info to take in is rather overwhelming. But I need to remember it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon lin, line upon line, here a little, there a little.

Sydan

I looked at the link you wrote:
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FBI: 100 Percent Chance of WMD Attack
Monday, 14 Feb 2011 06:47 PM
By Ronald Kessler

The probability that the U.S. will be hit with a weapons of mass destruction attack at some point is 100 percent, Dr. Vahid Majidi, the FBI’s assistant director in charge of the FBI’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate, tells Newsmax.

Such an attack could be launched by foreign terrorists, lone wolves who are terrorists, or even by criminal elements, Majidi says. It would most likely employ chemical, biological, or radiological weapons rather than a nuclear device.
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Do you actually believe it?

admin wrote:Y "you own two feet under the ground, and two feet above the ground". Everything else you need government permission.

And from The Don, sounds like water rights are only for what are under your feet.

So do you need a permit for a well?

How about water rights for a stream which goes through your property?

Finally,

Is land freehold in Chile?

admin wrote:I have this theory, that so far has seemed to bare out in the patagonia.

If a gringo buys land and is over charged or simply does not know better and pay to much, don't worry. The price of land around the gringo will instantly go up (no matter how bad) so that whatever the gringo paid will be the new average market price or even higher.

Multiply that formula by the number of clueless gringos in an area to get the fair market price of land.

The first clueless gringo(s) that overpaid, will sell at nice profit. Specially if they did a few grgo things to the property like plant trees, build cabin, or whatever.

So if you over pay, chances are it won't be for long as gringos tend to attract other gringos, and it typically only takes one a year to keep the price moving up with each sale (to chileans or gringos) .

yes.

patagoniax wrote:

admin wrote: there is a lot of Chilean ABC1 money, and it sets the trends, not the occasional outsider.

What is ABC1?

rasmataz wrote:My suggestion is to find the area in Chile that you would like to live in, go to the Notaria and ask one of the older ladies working there what the prices of land are going for in the various sectors and then start looking. This can be done without a corredor de propiedades but you will need someone that speaks castellano chileno to to be the initial contact and get the wheel going. It will take time. Up to a year but don't get discouraged because there is good land available.

Sorry, anyone looking for property prices that way in chile will be looking for a long time and will likely have nothing remotely accurate. Contracts that pass by notaries come for all sorts of reasons, and only tell a very vague story about their true value. First one that comes to mind, and most common in chile, are bank related mortgage contracts. Add to that you can sign a buy/sale or promissory anywhere in chile. In certain parts of rural chile I bet over half the property deals are signed at notaries in santiago or other locations nowhere near the region the property is located. So, not that simple.

no country for young men wrote:

patagoniax wrote: there is a lot of Chilean ABC1 money, and it sets the trends, not the occasional outsider.

What is ABC1?

The monied class. It's a marketing thing.

Image shows typical profile of economic distribution in Stgo with ABC1 being the upper economic stratum.

In the XIIa Región where I live, the ABC1 class is about 6 percent of the population ("households"). In the VIIa Región it's about 3 percent.