Re: house kits shipped in containers

Postby no country for young men » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:14 pm

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admin wrote:For chile with the 220volts, and the trade agreements between NZ, i would be inclined to bring the house from NZ....., also there are a number of excellent kit set home makers there that have styles made to fit in containers, and of course designed for extream weather/earthquakes...

we keep running in to kiwis in osorno who are being brought over to install NZ made products into factories because its cheaper and better to have them made there, rather than in expensive chile!!


Do you have a link to any of the NZ kit companies?

Wasn't much impressed with construction quality in NZ though after reading here for a few weeks - thanks PatagoniaX - it sounds like Chile might be worse. Wasn't under the impression that NZ construction / material costs were particularly competitive compared to the US either.

What is the difference between the NZ / Chile free trade deal and the pending(?) US/ Chile deal that would make it easier to do kits for NZ?

As a side note, since NZ came up, this article has 50 pics of damaged buildings in Christchurch. I'll post in on the building for earthquake thread too.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41746380/

scroll down for pics

Looking at the pics, there was some bad engineering done, looks more like Mexico City than a first world country, but then Kobe didn't do much better.

The tallest building in Christchurch, 23 stories, is expected to topple. That is pretty remarkable, but when you build on a delta with saturated soils, things happen.
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Re: house kits shipped in containers

Postby zer0nz » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:45 pm

Christchurch is one of new Zealands oldest cities... also he buildings that collapsed were from the 60/70s... not the 90/2000 where standards increased!!!, anyway,

http://www.a1homes.co.nz/

is the site i had in mind...... they have the prices and designs on the website

you would also expect the prices to be overall cheaper as the timber is from new Zealand. and hasn't circumnavigated the world to get there... and 80% of timber constructed homes are from treated pine, that has been pre fabricated in a factory, rather than built on site!, new zealand has some pretty modern construction techniques!
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Re: house kits shipped in containers

Postby no country for young men » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:37 am

zer0nz wrote:Christchurch is one of new Zealands oldest cities... also he buildings that collapsed were from the 60/70s... not the 90/2000 where standards increased!!!, anyway,

http://www.a1homes.co.nz/

is the site i had in mind...... they have the prices and designs on the website

you would also expect the prices to be overall cheaper as the timber is from new Zealand. and hasn't circumnavigated the world to get there... and 80% of timber constructed homes are from treated pine, that has been pre fabricated in a factory, rather than built on site!, new zealand has some pretty modern construction techniques!



VAT doesn't apply to an import from NZ?

My comments on NZ residential construction were based on older residences I guess, no offense intended. Thanks for the link.
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Re: house kits shipped in containers

Postby zer0nz » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:04 am

no country for young men wrote:
VAT doesn't apply to an import from NZ?


You still pay the 19% iva, you will always pay this, (i think unless you live and import through the freezone, planning in living in far north, or far south?) (or you company needs this house ??? (not sure ont he last one, but maybe it would work)),

What the Free Trade Agreement does is lower or remove any additional tariffs that may apply to other countries... (but it does not remove all, just most)....

The website i think has a BOM for the house, so perhaps you could find a good customs agent that could help you predict the actual tariffs and costs involved
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Re: house kits shipped in containers

Postby GJJIM » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:14 am

Here's a Chinese company that will sell you a "villa" (minus the Tuscan charm) packed in a container:

http://www.movablehousechina.co.uk/2-movable-villa.html

How many boatroads you want? :)
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Re: house kits shipped in containers

Postby no country for young men » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:14 pm

GJJIM wrote:Here's a Chinese company that will sell you a "villa" (minus the Tuscan charm) packed in a container:

http://www.movablehousechina.co.uk/2-movable-villa.html

How many boatroads you want? :)


"....
Our movable villa can be used as construction site offices, house selling offices, temporary classrooms, teahouses, exhibition halls, temporary hospitals, canteens, warehouses, parking lots, movable sentry boxes, just to name a few.

Outstanding Features of Movable Villa
1. Earthquake proofing and wind proofing of color steel plate movable villa are 7 magnitude and 9 magnitude respectively.
2. Earthquake proofing and wind proofing of light steel assembled house are 8 magnitude and 13 magnitude respectively.
3. The second floor is designed with a weight-bearing capacity of 150kg/square meters.
4. Huasha movable villas enjoy more than 10 years' using life.
....."

Think I'll go for two boatloads of the 13 magnitude teahouses and I'll stay off the 2nd floor.
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Re: house kits shipped in containers

Postby patagoniax » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:48 pm

admin wrote:For chile with the 220volts,


Just because the voltage is the same doesn't mean that the wiring methods and materials are the same. What meets norms in NZ and UK (or China) is not necessarily accepted by SEC in Chile. That doesn't mean that the Chilean electrical norms are better -- and I submit that they are not -- but different rules is different rules. Of course, you might not have to prove compliance with Chilean SEC rules.

Here's the link - go for it:

http://www.sec.cl/portal/page?_pageid=3 ... ema=PORTAL


Example of Chilean certs requirements http://www.sec.cl/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/SECNORMATIVA/CONSULTA_PUBLICA/REGLAMENTO_DE_CERTIFICACION_PARA_CONSULTA.PDF
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