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It’s funny when asked I just use my last name again, it’s not uncommon in Chile to have the same name from both mother and father so why introduce another name, I did many years ago and my mother’s name was White which was immediately translated to Blanco, which of course was wrong and caused some problem, from then on it was my last name in both lines.

I had an interesting experience with my birth place on a document Whitehorse YT, well it’s not Caballo Blanco as the name has nothing to do with White Horses and on the list for Canada only the provinces were listed no territories so I was not Canadian, all that was fixed with the free trade treaty

... thanks for the laughs, tips & encouragement, especially El P's reply. Haha! Jason Bourne! Mine was reminiscent of INCEPTION. I heard of the trouble getting things done here from other foreigners and in this forum, but wasn't sure if I was dreaming while it was happening to me and I kept waiting for the "totem" to stop spinning but it didn't. At that point I needed a "kick" to wake me up before I lost it in there (of course my definition of "losing it" only means rolling of the eyes and pouting, which is everyday fare here).

It's just different everywhere, and I understand that.
- In the US - the middle name is the second given name (if any), mother's maiden name is not used.
- In the Philippines, one's middle name is your mother's maiden name.
- Nowhere does it say "mother's maiden" name on both passports. Besides you can only use the passport where the visa is attached to in order to get your carnet.

@Steph: The only thing I have to show is my passport (and the police clearance) because the Depto Extranjeria got the actual application form and kept it. The passport has only 2 lines for the names, first one is "SURNAME/APELLIDOS" and the next line is "GIVEN-NAMES/NOMBRES". So my mother's maiden name appears as my 3rd name on that 2nd line because in the US, I used it as my "middle name". They want to see it on my "APELLIDOS" line. Everything else I have (the visa, the police clearance and a ROL) has it the way the chileans want it (paterno-materno format) since we explained it to them (yes, the same explanation I gave to the carnet office).

@Gloria: did you have to use a paterno-materno name when you got to the US then?

BTW, it also doesn't help that my mother's maiden name is CARLOS (and I am every bit a female). So you can imagine the extra confusion they have. One can only laugh when asked in "open-english accent"... "so... you are a boy?!".

Thank you everyone and I will check back in this thread with whatever becomes of the US Embassy visit tomorrow for others who find themselves in the same place as me.

xxx

papelchica wrote:

@Gloria: did you have to use a paterno-materno name when you got to the US then?

My second name ( baptism ) was eliminated and also my mother's maiden name. I just kept my father's but when I got married, everything was " wiped out" and I used only his last name. Now since I came back to Chile I got back to my full name and because I didn't get married here, I'm also single!!!

el puelche wrote:I am fortunate because they have included my rank, name, and adjoining adjectives <<which are all true although to some degee, diluted, at least in english>>.

"Capitan General Presidente y Party Forum Hero de All Forum Chile, El Puelche, el Precioso y Magnaminus, de Infinidad para siempre y Jamas de todo el Universo conocido al momento y el futuro, incluyendo anartica chilena."

I get into all the games with my carnet, which is nice.

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So you're mother's maiden name is "Chilena" then? hahahaha!

Yea, I would tend to side with try someone else. The minions forced to stay in the office and work during Feb vacation season tend to be fairly clueless.

Generally the rule is exactly as immigration handled it.

There has been some related threads on similar issues.


For the record,

My ID has it listed

Last name

First name, middle name

I've just got a carnet issued and I have a similar situation - I use both my father and my stepfather's last names. But I was able to get a carnet issued with one apellido and 3 nombres, which matches my passport.
I guess your issue is that you have filled in some documents with the second apellido, which doesn't match what your passport says. Can you redo those documents and just have two middle names on everything?
I'm with everyone else -go back another day, get another person (even with the painful wait).

Went to the US Embassy only to be told at the window that they don't do such things there (authenticate a name). I should have known better than to listen to the damn phone operator (or the registro civil).

I just went to the Registro Civil in the centro, my husband spoke to the supervisor while I waited in line. I was surprised to see the line was short even if I walked in there are 11:30am. I think total time in cue was about 45 mins. Luckily I got a girl who was having a good day with a good sense of humor who was helpful and understood the situation, along with the supervisor's help I was able to secure a carnet. So there.

Moral of the story: Just have everything as it is on the passport. And yes it's true - go back and try on a different day. And yes, tramites do consume you and make you crazy sometimes.

Thank you everyone!