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O.k., this is the second time in recent weeks (it has happened before also) that I am out googling some technical question that has nothing to do with Chile, and allchile.net pops up on the top of Google. So, I'll ask the question in this forum where everyone seems to know everything about everything.

I am shopping for a compound sliding miter saw. Of course the U.S. has better selection and prices all the way around on such things. Just one problem, most saws are 110v. So, anyway it was mentioned somewhere that it is a common practice in the States for people to convert the motor on their saws to 220 v for faster startups. In fact many makers include a wiring diagram on the motor to do it.

Question, has anyone done this with their U.S. bought tools in Chile? If so, what brands?

Edit - see later posting on Bosch model 220 vac single phase

admin wrote:O.k., this is the second time in recent weeks (it has happened before also) that I am out googling some technical question that has nothing to do with Chile, and allchile.net pops up on the top of Google. So, I'll ask the question in this forum where everyone seems to know everything about everything.

I am shopping for a compound sliding miter saw. Of course the U.S. has better selection and prices all the way around on such things. Just one problem, most saws are 110v. So, anyway it was mentioned somewhere that it is a common practice in the States for people to convert the motor on their saws to 220 v for faster startups. In fact many makers include a wiring diagram on the motor to do it.

Question, has anyone done this with their U.S. bought tools in Chile? If so, what brands?

haha, thats google tracking your habbits!,i use to have that problem when i was working on old cars in aus, eventually google just shows you results from the sites you visit most often, so i would switch to altavista for a fresh perspective and have a whole new set of websites that i never knew existed before!!!

no , I am very aware of the google tracking and personal search.

Had a beer and some philosophical conversation one time in Europe with a guy that was the head of R&D for lets just say a very very big and well known site.

I said, "Google knows more than God".

He said, "No Google does not know more than God, but God still needs Google to find where he put everything".

Yea, I am hunting the 220 also, just the bigger deals are in the 110 range.

make a little trip to Argentina for a Milwaukee compound mitre saw....

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA ... strial-_JM



*Potencia absorbida 1.800 W
*Velocidad en vacío 3200 rpm
*Cable 3 m
*Peso 29.5 Kg

-Control de ángulos digital - otorga una precisión 0,1º
-Doble luz de área trabajo – Ilumina completamente pieza de trabajo por ambas partes de la hoja
-Motor directo de 1800 W con potencia constante – suministra gran potencia con velocidad constante en carga. Este asegura un corte preciso y limpio incluso en maderas duras
-Sistema captura serrín – Captura el 75 % del serrín, cerca del corte por las dos caras de la hoja
-Única con motor en línea – excelente visibilidad en ambos lados de la hoja, mayor estabilidad en el transporte
-Capacidad de inglete 55º izquierda y 60º derecha – máxima versatilidad – topes preseleccionados: 0°, 15°, 22,5°, 31,6°, 45°, 60°
-Diseño bisel doble – Inclinación de la hoja izquierda y derecha de 0º a 48º con topes preseleccionados 0°, 22,5, 33,85°, 45°, 48°
-Rápido y preciso ajuste del bisel – con una única palanca de ajuste.

According to Bosch Chile, they have the 220 vac version saw that you may need. You might have to contact Bosch Chile for a retailer

Emasa
Av. Irarrazaval 259, Nunoa
Santiago
Chile Tel: (562) 520 3100


Bosch 10" Sliding Mitre Saw GCM10S is made in 220vac single phase - see image.

Makita also makes 220 vac version - Makita LS1018L 260mm Slide Compound Mitre Saw

The generic description in Spanish is "sierra ingletadora compuesta deslizante" for sliding compound mitre saw. But you already knew that.

Yea, I might drop the slide requirement. One the price difference is fairly big between the two types, and two I have been reading about the accuracy of the cuts not being as on the money as fixed armed saws. If I need to chop something outside the saws range, I either can flip it over or get out the chainsaw.

Would like the 12 inch or 350 mm blade, over the 10 inch.

Argentina might be an option, as I will likly be driving through soon for a trip to the Patagonia.

admin wrote:Yea, I might drop the slide requirement. One the price difference is fairly big between the two types, and two I have been reading about the accuracy of the cuts not being as on the money as fixed armed saws. If I need to chop something outside the saws range, I either can flip it over or get out the chainsaw.

Would like the 12 inch or 350 mm blade, over the 10 inch.

Argentina might be an option, as I will likly be driving through soon for a trip to the Patagonia.

Bosch also makes a 12 inch model of the compound mitre saw sold in Chile: Ingleteadora GCM 12 . May even be at some Sodimacs if you don't need the slide version.
http://www.boschchile.cl/bosch/herramie ... 1050&fam=3



An interesting coincidence since I was going to pick up a nice manual ingletadora in Punta Arenas on the next trip at Famapal.

I suspect that Bariloche would be a good bet for your search in Argentina. I think the new "El Tehuelche" (Sodimac equivalent) in Bariloche (south end of things, on the mesa outside of the city, visible from highway) may have a decent selection of power tools. I know they carry some Bosch power tools including saws. There are also 3 or 4 Bosch power tool dealers in San Martin de los Andes which isn't far from you.... there and back in a day easily.

EL TEHUELCHE SACIC ( S.BARILOCHE )
PJE.GUTIERREZ 3443
S C BARILOCHE
Neuquén
Tel: 02944-449444

big list of ferreterias in Bariloche http://www.todobariloche.com/construcci ... rias-d.htm

this is what I want, but a bit out of my price range at the moment and can't find a 220v version. perhaps after x-mas sales:

http://www.protoolreviews.com/reviews/p ... -miter-saw

Bosch makes that model in both 110 and 220 vac versions. The 220 version of the 12 inch type is apparently sold in Argentina.

That sliding arm feature is very useful, and if you use the saw very much, you will find you use it often. My saw is a DeWalt and I can't see any problems in the accuracy. The saw has made some very accurate cuts in laminated vinyl flooring for a floor with a complicated shape where bad cuts would ruin the piece of flooring just cut. (The saw blade for that was a bit pricey, though, but can be resharpened, so a good investment.)

Bosch gets a thumbs up from me. I've got a portable table saw that has been excellent. I picked it out because it came with a very well designed table. One flick of a lever and it turns into a dolly for moving the saw around. The whole thing is well made and easy to use. So I think their engineering department is on top of things.

Any way, that sliding arm costs more, but I sure think it is worth it. Not all that much difference over the life of the saw. Besides, the quality of your saw blade is probably going to be what makes the most difference in the quality of your cuts.

I bought a Black and Decker router table because it looked well designed. But had to return it. It had nice features but was hard to adjust and wouldn't hold the adjustments. You tend to get what you pay for with tools. Cheap tends to be cheap instead of a bargain.

Yea, that one in particular catches my eye because of the new design of the slide ( more of an arm than a slide ) and it will make a 14 inch cut with accuracy.

Yea there are some things you can go cheap with. Simple things, I have had good luck with. my standard black and decker circular saw is just fine, once I got rid of the crappy blade they gave me with it. A few other odds and ends I have bought on the low end have been just fine, mostly stuff I only use very infrequently (sandars, power screwdrivers).

A big item like a miter saw, I am going to put the money in to with the hope it will be the last one I ever buy (every time I say that, that is the thing that gets stolen).

It is like a 50 meter tape or a level by Red Line (one of the cheapest brands in Chile) have been just fine. What is going to happen? Is their meter or foot going to be faulty? Is the bubble is not going to obey the laws of physics?Things without any serious engineering required, or things with very little in way of improvement in the last 10,000 or at least 100 years (hammers, shovels, so on). Things that designing (or copying) a bad one almost cost more than a good one to produce. Granted, the trick is to know what to look for in such things.

On the other hand, like cordless drill that I use constantly for everything, I am glad I spent the money for the Makita. I almost don't leave home without it, as I found it just easier to keep it in the car.