Re: Dr. Copper...

Postby StevenDC » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:19 pm

Chinese Copper Inventories Revealed To Be Double Estimated

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chinese-c ... -estimated


Submitted by Tyler Durden on 10/12/2011 - 15:06 China Copper Smart Money
In a piece of news that can not be taken well by students of Dr. Copper, the FT reveals for the first time that China's estimated copper inventories, based on numbers from the China Non-Ferrous Metals Industry Association, were 1.9 million tonnes at the end of 2010 which is almost double the lower end of the consensus estimate of 1.0-1.5 MM tonnes (and, as the FT points out, "more than the US consumes in a year). So while copper is doing its high beta thing on the nth short squeeze day in stocks, the smart money is starting to bail for very obvious reasons. And if the reasons are not obvious, this means that "The estimates, which were announced at a recent meeting of the International Copper Study Group but have not been made public, imply that real Chinese copper demand may have been lower than thought in recent years." In other words, and to all who are still confused by why Zero Hedge jokes at each and every iteration of economic growth driven by "inventory stockpiling", this is nothing other than trying to do at the national level, what Goldman and JPM do at the LME level each and every day: hoard and sell. Alas, when china itslef is the only real marginal buyer (not to mention that millions of domestic businesses operate using Letters of Credit backed by copper), things get very very ugly, and explains why China has been so secretive about this number.
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Re: Dr. Copper...

Postby greg~judy » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:50 am

a good, albeit lengthy~detailed tome...
copper specifically, but commodities in general...
china, of course, looms large in the mix...
enjoy the perspectives (we did!) or not (if you so choose?)...
merely fwiw... :|

Illusions Versus Reality in the Copper Market

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