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Wedding Photographer wrote:AWESOME, believe me, if i could i would, but turning up to a wedding with all me gear in the back of that might not cut it lol...although IF i arrived on time it would be good publicity if i can write my website address on the animals bums

LOL.. that would certainly be interesting. BTW, your work is gorgeous. I ventured into wedding photography myself but we now observe sabbath.. and since most weddings are on fridays or saturday's that pretty much did away with it. Loved it though.. I'm a romantic and love weddings.. even after you've been on your feet for 8+ hours exhuasted from shooting it's still enjoyable to me.

greg~judy wrote:

[p~x sez, from another thread...] The image of "Toyota Hilux diesel" and "self-sufficiency" conjures up conflicting notions. How about an ox-drawn wooden cart? Now I am comfortable.

MadTexan...
Fergit about those infernal combusting things...
THIS is what you will aspire to - homesteading in the southern realms.

Patagonian vehicle you need.jpg

LOL! I keep running into this idea that self sufficient means Amish or something. Not sure why a truck on a farm would be unusual? People used to run small family farms for a living and they had trucks, freezers, and even them new fangled contraptions called telephones.

MadTexan wrote:

greg~judy wrote:

[p~x sez, from another thread...] The image of "Toyota Hilux diesel" and "self-sufficiency" conjures up conflicting notions. How about an ox-drawn wooden cart? Now I am comfortable.

MadTexan...
Fergit about those infernal combusting things...
THIS is what you will aspire to - homesteading in the southern realms.

Patagonian vehicle you need.jpg

LOL! I keep running into this idea that self sufficient means Amish or something. Not sure why a truck on a farm would be unusual? People used to run small family farms for a living and they had trucks, freezers, and even them new fangled contraptions called telephones.

FOR THE RECORD:

1. "Self-sufficiency refers to the state of not requiring any outside aid, support, or interaction, for survival; it is therefore a type of personal or collective autonomy."
2. Able to provide for oneself without the help of others; independent.
3. Able to maintain oneself or itself without outside aid : capable of providing for one's own needs
4. Sufficient for one's self without external aid or cooperation

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
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The small family farms are a thing of the past because they ceased to be self sufficient and relied too much on purchased "tools" on credit. The more expenses you have the more you have to produce to pay for them.

Obviously, an alternative to making everything yourself like a buggy to be pulled by horses or spinning your own yarn for clothing, would be to grow a cash crop and sell it or raise extra livestock and sell it. Then use the income to purchase fuel and maintain a vehicle and buy clothing. Or whatever else you need. It is a business, not a hobby. It's just another form of self employment, using the land to create an income and the daily needs of life. Whether you make your own yarn from wool you shear on sheep you raise, or if you raise a big field of blackberries and sell them for money to buy a sweater, it is self suffiecient living in my opinion, but I understand your view and it is based on a reasonable definition. So technically correct or not, I am simply clarifying to you what kind of goal I am trying to achieve here. Patagoniax, what do you do to make ends meet and what region do you live in? Why exactly did you move to Chile and continue to stay there?

MadTexan wrote: Patagoniax, what do you do to make ends meet and what region do you live in? Why exactly did you move to Chile and continue to stay there?

Patagoniax lives in the XII Región and works for the Chilean government.