Chile Forum

Unbelievable silly stuff. You have been watching too many movies!

What's the point, these Cy-ops guys write stuff just to confuse the opposition and then the opposition tries to confuse themselves and writes a rebuttal. Soon it takes on a life of it's own. There's no way to sort it out, nor does it matter. It's the stuff movies are made of... Bourne Connection anyone? Just look at the big picture. Fabulous dreamers, all of them and I wouldn't waste a minute on another conspiracy theory. Even if it was 100% true I'll say, "Where's the beef?" It's like the Jewish plot to take over the world, turned out to be French humor that the Soviets put in their archives and when Westerners fished it out it was interpreted as true. C'este la vie.

The link you quoted is Wikipedia? Didn't you just say that you edited that link? Must be true.

I told you so.

Not really, like a "Cyclops" I prefer to look at things with only one eye and wait 40+ years (enough time to rewrite things) and say "I told you so", when the percieved reality of what happened should remain with Chileans. Shakespeare said it well: "..... the good is interred with their bones."

Don't be so quick to dismiss these things. I worked in DC during that time period and was privy to some interesting communications. What that paper describes is typical of Soviet military special-ops planning, and thank god it was apparently rejected by the central committee -- for good reasons. We were hours from going to war with the Soviet Union in October '73. Brezhnev was feeling his oats and had ordered emergency military support for Egypt as its spat with Israel was going badly. The ruski paratroopers were being loaded onto aircraft in Yugoslavia in the middle of the night when they woke Nixon with the news. Nixon didn't hesitate or call the UN, he told Brezhnev to stand down or else.

That is just one example of how the Soviets were "pushing the envelope" during that period in the cold war.

and a Naval flotilla large enough to defeat Chile sailed through the Bosporus, Gibralter and halfway around the planet without being noticed? While (allegedly) the US and USSR were tied up with all that other stuff? I didn't realise the USSR was that good!

No, the attempts to rewrite what happened in Chile with el "Golpe" just doesn't hold water. We should not be trying to justify our role in this period of Chilean history. Just because we are "AMERICA" doesn't mean we don't make mistakes, and mistakes should be recognized for what they are. Chile has some humanistic values that are actually at a par with what the USA alleges.

As far as your personal credentials of being involved in that stuff, I would say the office talk has left a lasting impression on your thinking and in the face of the most beautiful country on the planet (Chile), perhaps you could just enjoy it... go hiking. Take some pictures and post them... Life is too good to be thinking about that stuff. You are very lucky to have arrived there ahead of me... but I'll be down there soon and we can discuss it over diner.!

Yea I read it. Tipico de reportes en Espanol. Los que hablan mas, dicen menos. Si tuvieara mas tiempo para leer, escribiria un libro! hablan y hablan y habla diciendo nada. Pues esta igual no? chao yo. david