Chile Forum

There are those who believe that the Obama administration is using the BP spill to scare people into pushing for Cap and Trade passage. In fact, during Obama's big speech about the spill, he pushed Cap and Trade as a solution to the problem. They believe Obama needs this to get even worse in order to get the people to follow along.

OK... this could get REALLY complex, as well as off-topic.
Perhaps, at some future point, an allchilean will introduce the topic of...
"... wtf are we (allchileans) gonna do when we get... A One-World-Currency

This is not a political issue, it is an environmental issue.

The Ruskies track record with Nukes turned out rather poor in the end.

btw - the Am'urkans did lots of testing too... i.e. indiscriminately nuking their own population
...(along with a few [formerly occupied] Pacific atolls)...
and btw again, on a personal note, ~j's thyroid cancer in the late 60's was arguably a result of testing~fallout from the huge # of blasts in the SW, back in the 50's~60's

how a government does not (want) to handle an oil spill??

PanAmerican wrote:Everybody says they know how to clean up the oil, but so far very little oil has been cleaned up. Crackpot ideas are everywhere from human hair stuffed in pantyhose, to the skimmer ship "A Whale". None of them work. Offers to send help are like a single drop in the ocean and not effective. The current rate of recovery is about 900 barrels per day. Everyone is frustrated and blaming the poeple they hate most.

Invocation of the Jones Act has been another hoax. There is no reference to the Jones Act in any refused offer, yet the myth persists without documentation.

Oil and water don't mix. There is no 'technology' that will fix it.

This is not a political issue, it is an environmental issue. No action or non-action will change what has happened. Trying to shift the blame from BP to another party is silly. Today on the radio there was a British guy telling me that BP wasn't really a British Company. Oh dear.

Let's hope they get it plugged and don't listen to the Russian General who advises use of nuclear weapons! The Ruskies track record with Nukes turned out rather poor in the end.

Oh, for crying out loud. GJ, only you could connect BP Oil Spill to Russia to Hiroshima
...in order to come to the usual conclusion - Amerikuns is jist so bad.
Ease up, JH, neither of those interpretations are valid.
#1 - Not my connection... look back to where the nookular tangent was introduced.
g~j merely responded to an arguably false premise.
#2 - Not the words in my mouth... no need to put them there.
g~j always make a distinction between a pathocracy and a people... no worries, mate.

Might be a good segue to paraphrase the old... "don't kill the messenger" line.
"To disbelieve the message and seek to kill the messenger will not destroy the message"
BTW... It's the regime that stinks - and what some good folks might do, or don't do, about it.

It's one thing to levy a reasoned critique of a specific issue (e.g. response to oil spill bad because x, y, z).
Exactly... my criticism was about the (initial~continuing) nature of the response
Who are ALL the players - and who ultimately pays or benefits.
It's one thing to say... "bad because x,y,z"
Without asking who says... "good because x,y,z"
Like ol' Rahmbo spouted the other week... something about "not letting a good crisis go to waste"
Any who choose to continue narrowly and credulously looking at what is being disseminated about this disaster might be wise to pause and consider a more holistic picture.
The "inconvenient truth" (thanx Al G.) remains - that profits will be made...
The Devil is in the details

... and hot off the press, stuff like this...
"July 12 (Bloomberg) -- The economic damage from the BP Plc spill in the Gulf of Mexico will be dwarfed by the Obama administration’s moratorium on deep-water drilling"
So just like that old song... (sing along...)
The drill bone is connected to the rig bone... the rig bone is connected to the well bone... the well bone is connected to the lobby bone... the lobby bone is connected to the congress bone...
Ask yourself again... if anyone will really grasp the entire web being weaved

When one has to stretch so far to arrive at the same point as usual,
Before one can stretch (the truth), one might be better to know where it begins~ends?
The "point", however, will always remain relative - according to the observer.

...it reveals more about the source than the target.
Certainly - personas + opinions of "sources" on this~any forum are usually translucent - never transparent, or opaque... such translucency is always open to interpretation (didn't we cover that before?).
So, no need to worry or get headaches on g~j's account... we're basically harmless translucents
Take us (seriously), or leave us (frivolously- sarcastically - cynically - sardonically...)

Sheesh.
Whew...
John Hyre, Your Posts Still Make My Head Hurt
Sorry about that, nothing personal... as always, g~j recommend ibuprofen.

Ellen-y-Rene wrote:how a government does not (want) to handle an oil spill??

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patagoniax wrote:

Ellen-y-Rene wrote:how a government does not (want) to handle an oil spill??

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1. This has nothing to do with Chile.
2. Crude oil is literally organic and has been spilling into the environment for thousands of years before there were Chile forums..
3. Crude oil breaks down naturally in the environment, more quickly in warm climates, and does no permanent damage to other than political systems, which are inherently ephemeral, irrational, and disposable. In 20 years years nobody will remember this year's oil spill, just as nobody can remember the last time there was a "world's largest oil spill that will destroy all life as we know it."