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W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby greg~judy » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:36 am

Chile's wine exporters feel the economic squeeze

Foreigners are drinking more but have shifted to cheaper vintages,
spoiling the plans of vintners to move upmarket.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chile-wine16-2010feb16,0,4310606,print.story

Support your local winery...
drink more of the good stuff
allchileans must rise to the task
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We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”

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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby MikieO » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:40 am

Absolutely, buy the best box you can find, every time. And in chicha season, don't settle for less than the very finest. (hic) :alien:
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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby greg~judy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:13 am

I know... I know...
Lots of allchileans only buy the better boxes :?
But for those who aspire to the bottle...
Here's a very good recent analysis on the industry/products

part1
Will the real Chile be allowed to stand up?
http://www.montrealgazette.com/story_print.html?id=2530676&sponsor=

part2
Understanding regions of Chile is key to choosing right wines
http://www.montrealgazette.com/story_print.html?id=2556919&sponsor=

part3
Hot Chile: Is cabernet sauvignon the answer?
http://www.montrealgazette.com/story_print.html?id=2582076&sponsor=
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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby RuneTheChookcha » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:55 pm

I never exceeded 1,990 pesos (CLP) per bottle of wine in Chile (and 12 pesos per bottle in Argentina), and am not going to. Personally, I find most of these -- "drinkable" (unlike the forum Administration, who would rather place this price range into the "undrinkable" category ). When buying wine in a supermarket, I always try to pay good attention to a various discount programs and offers by the major Chilean supermarket chains.
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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:20 pm

Salud, Cheers,

To both the cuico gringos and the non-cuico gringos :lol:
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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby greg~judy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:40 pm

Your "valued" advice is well heard, Rune
I also tend to follow such advice...
But, I do make occasional "exceptions"
I.E. when the "discounts" offered
Might bring a usually pricier wine
Verging towards the "drinkable" category

In Vino Veritas
Is your truth, or the truth of another
More "valued" than mine?
Does Truth have a price?
If you pay/offer 1990 CHP for your Truth
Can I accept it? (rhetorical)
I believe I must!
The Roman historian Tacitus described how the Germanic peoples always drank wine while holding councils, as they believed nobody could lie effectively when drunk.

When we eventually hold council together, Rune...
There will be some "drinkable" wine...
And no lies will be told :wink:
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We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”

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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby RuneTheChookcha » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:46 pm

I wanted a "definition", and found this website:

The Definition of Cuico and Flaite

People in Chile have different ideas of what the words "Cuico," and "Flaite," actually mean. I've touched upon the two subjects a couple times, mentioning their definitions briefly in passing, but today I want to write and actual post on the subject.

...

Myth #1.

Being a cuico does not depend on where you live. Chilean would say that a cuico is someone who is upper class, snobby, looks down on people of a lower social standing. And often times, Chilean society will automatically assume you are a cuico or a flaite, simply based upon your physical address. If you live in a "barrio alto," you are a cuico. A barrio alto, literally translated, means a high neighborhood. This term came about because the rich Chileans tend to move higher and higher up into the Andes Mountains, isolating themselves from the smog, the city bustle and noise, and the poor people. They live in higher altitudes, aka, "barrios altos." A "barrio bajo," or low neighborhood, on the otherhand, tends to be anything below the metro stop Baquedano.

...

Myth #2.

Chileans call people who are generally lower class and tend to have a certain attitude or set of beliefs, "flaite." Flaite can be a low social class, people who rob and steal to get by, a certain style of dress and a way of talking. For instance, pronouncing the "Ch," in Chile as Shile instead of Chile almost automatically qualifies you as flaite, which is unfortunate.

While many Chileans may classify all poor people as flaite, I really disagree with that. In the U.S., we have a saying that "money can't buy class." And I would have to argue that the same applies to this country.

In Chile socially inappropriate behaviours will qualify you as flaite. The term does connote low socio-economic status as well.

But, I think that's absurd, as the rich are not exempt from behaving socially inappropriate. For instance, I was once on a bus ride back from Algarrobo. Two girls vomited in the back of the bus and didn't clean it up until someone tattled on them. An older woman sitting near me remarked in an aghast tone, "Que flaite!"

...


Source: ohquepasa .blogspot .com/2009/03/definition-of-cuico-and-flaite.html
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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:14 pm

The search abilities of roach people, caca people and uneducated apes continue to impress me. :mrgreen:
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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby mlightheart » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:24 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:The search abilities of roach people, caca people and uneducated apes continue to impress me. :mrgreen:


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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby greg~judy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:10 pm

The search abilities of roach people, caca people and uneducated apes continue to impress me.

"I resemble that remark"
but... "I cannot say that I do not disagree with you."

"Before I speak, I have something important to say."
So... "If you've heard this story before, don't stop me, because I'd like to hear it again."
and then... "Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted."

eeuu.... :mrgreen:
"Now, there's a man with an open mind. You can feel the breeze from here."
you know... "I have nothing but respect for you, and not much of that."
... just kidding... :wink:
but... "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."

And BTW... back to the topic...
"I drink (wine) to make other people interesting."


(Thanx to Groucho) :lol:
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Re: W(h)ining in Chile...?

Postby RuneTheChookcha » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:23 pm

Sr. mlightheart: if you could please clean your webcam a little bit?..
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