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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:35 pm

This should be interesting.

I'm waiting for the reply of another blinded "objective" USA "patriot"/resident to respond to the previous posts.
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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:39 pm

Remember USA patriotic blahbbermouths THIS is a country of Napoleonic Latin law tradition and NOT English "Common Law."
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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby atltvlagt » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:05 pm

David White

America, tread carefully - or we may find by our own unhappy experience that there is a natural and necessary progression from the extreme of anarchy to the extreme of Tyranny, and that arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of Liberty abused to licentiousness...
[George Washington to John Hancock -11 June 1783]
I know you are angry America, but hold it together. Beware the next step. If we let ourselves become driven into violence, we do so at our own peril. Anarchy is not a long lived state, and the more comfortable and prosperous and nation is (and America ranks first in the history of civilizations) , the faster the adoption of a dictator to "restore order" and "provide security". Think of those of your friends and neighbors who are oblivious to what is happening right now, and if they do have an inkling will incorrectly diagnose the cause. How long would they stand a disruption of society, of their children being endangered, of their businesses and fortunes being lost...before they would willingly adopt a tyrant.

Beware America...in the days ahead, you'll be driven to more anger. Amnesty is on the horizon Other attacks on your liberty are on the horizon. They will try to shut you up and shut you down. You will be painted as extremists, called names, beaten down. Those in power now, think that if they rattle the cage hard enough, something is bound to break loose. But stand down, there is a revolution coming...the bloodless revolution of November.

Beware America...do not grow complacent. I know you are discouraged, but now is not the time to go back to sleep. It is a time to once again try to awaken your friends and neighbors. Their country is on fire and there is an arsonist loose. Consider these words...I hope they haunt you.

"Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves."
[Winston Churchill]

Beware America...tread carefully now. The modus operandi of those in power is "Never let a crisis go to waste". They are not constrained by conscience, and so have no qualm in manufacturing the next crisis. Their prospects for November are bleak (I'm sure they have read the tea leaves, just as you), they have nothing to lose...and those with nothing to lose are the most dangerous.

Beware America...there is a tyrant in waiting.
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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby Chuck J 3.0 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:46 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:Remember USA patriotic blahbbermouths THIS is a country of Napoleonic Latin law tradition and NOT English "Common Law."


They don't know that, know what it means or care, too busy exporting "Democracy".
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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby Gene Gindling » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:44 am

Russia Warns US Communist Threat Endangering Entire World

“The concentration of surplus assets in the hands of the state is a negative aspect of anti-crisis measures in virtually every nation. In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state's role absolute. In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.”


Putin had previously warned the United States against its planned adoption of Communism during his January, 2009 speech to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland upon Obama taking office, and had stated:In a chilling speech to Russian defence experts yesterday, Prime Minister Putin ordered the buildup of strategic weapons and warned that the growing threat of the expansion of American Communism is endangering the entire World and bringing the Motherland closer to war than at any time since the1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

“The concentration of surplus assets in the hands of the state is a negative aspect of anti-crisis measures in virtually every nation. In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state’s role absolute. In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.”

Unfortunately though, Obama, and those Communist forces backing him, do want to see this monster of a system repeated and have in the past year accelerated the United States descent into the abyss of total state control over all aspects of Americans lives and have created one of the most all encompassing “surveillance societies” our World has ever seen.

So dire has the situation become in the United States that one of their most dissident lawmakers, US Congressman Ron Paul, took to the floor of their House of Representatives this past week and warned that Obama’s forces were now openly stating that they have the power to assassinate any American citizen they deem to be a terrorist threat against them.

And not just from the right are these warnings against Obama coming, but also from their furthest left-wing ones too as the powerful black-Muslim leader and Obama ally, Louis Farrakhan, of Chicago’s Nation of Islam warned his followers this week that America is facing “imminent disaster” and they all must start “preparing for the worst”.

Obama, however, has chosen not to listen to these warnings and this past week accelerated his Communist takeover of America by appointing thepowerful head of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), and avowed Communist, Andy Stern, to the top US government commission to oversee its economy.

http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute<dot>org/2010/03/28/russia-warns-us-communist-threat-endangering-entire-world/

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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby Laura55llc » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:17 pm

Gene Gindling wrote:Russia Warns US Communist Threat Endangering Entire World



Unfortunately though, Obama, and those Communist forces backing him, do want to see this monster of a system repeated and have in the past year accelerated the United States descent into the abyss of total state control over all aspects of Americans lives and have created one of the most all encompassing “surveillance societies” our World has ever seen.

So dire has the situation become in the United States that one of their most dissident lawmakers, US Congressman Ron Paul, took to the floor of their House of Representatives this past week and warned that Obama’s forces were now openly stating that they have the power to assassinate any American citizen they deem to be a terrorist threat against them.

And not just from the right are these warnings against Obama coming, but also from their furthest left-wing ones too as the powerful black-Muslim leader and Obama ally, Louis Farrakhan, of Chicago’s Nation of Islam warned his followers this week that America is facing “imminent disaster” and they all must start “preparing for the worst”.

Obama, however, has chosen not to listen to these warnings and this past week accelerated his Communist takeover of America by appointing thepowerful head of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), and avowed Communist, Andy Stern, to the top US government commission to oversee its economy.



Good grief. The good old communist threat. Be afraid, very afraid. :roll:

But it looks like....Obama could be a capitalist....that would ruin everything.

Among the banks that rule Wall Street, Citigroup got a bailout that was bigger than the rest. Now the company is about to pay a king's ransom for its federal rescue.

The Obama administration is making final preparations to sell its stake in the New York bank, according to industry and federal sources. At today's prices, the sale would net more than $8 billion, by far the largest profit returned from any firm that accepted bailout funds, and the transaction would be the second-largest stock sale in history.

On paper, the government's 27 percent stake has grown in value to $33 billion. The size of the deal in the works has Wall Street buzzing. Only the stock offering by Japan's Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, which raised $36.8 billion in 1987, was larger, according to Thomson Reuters.

Leading financial firms, including J.P. Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs, are vying to be chosen as the deal's underwriters to gain the prestige of managing a historic stock sale as well as the fees from investors who buy the shares. To improve their chances, some banks, such as Goldman Sachs, are offering their services to the Treasury Department at almost no cost, industry officials familiar with the matter said.


And I like Ron Paul-he doesn't use the stupid communist rhetoric and as usual, they like to use him as they see fit. Pretty sure he wouldn't agree with a lot of that. I believe his point is that the Obama administration is continuing Bush post 9/11 policies. I am also not thrilled with that but what it has to do with communism, I fail to grasp. :mrgreen:

And if the right listened to Ron Paul more(which they don't) they would be in a better place. Screaming socialist/communist takeover by the folks that brought you the Patriot Act(talk about a government takeover) and not a whisper except from ...Russ Feingold Democrat, I'm sure a communist :mrgreen: That vote would have been a nice time for the Patriots to notice....but how clever to get people worked up once a Democrat is elected. Blame everything on them. Not saying the Dems are blame-free but really.....

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00313
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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby Chuck J 3.0 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:39 pm

It's Official - America Now Enforces Capital Control
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/its-official-america-now-enforces-capital-controls

"It couldn't have happened to a nicer country. On March 18, with very little pomp and circumstance, president Obama passed the most recent stimulus act, the $17.5 billion Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (H.R. 2487), brilliantly goalseeked by the administration's millionaire cronies to abbreviate as HIRE. As it was merely the latest in an endless stream of acts destined to expand the government payroll to infinity, nobody cared about it, or actually read it. Because if anyone had read it, the act would have been known as the Capital Controls Act, as one of the lesser, but infinitely more important provisions on page 27, known as Offset Provisions - Subtitle A—Foreign Account Tax Compliance, institutes just that. In brief, the Provision requires that foreign banks not only withhold 30% of all outgoing capital flows (likely remitting the collection promptly back to the US Treasury) but also disclose the full details of non-exempt account-holders to the US and the IRS. And should this provision be deemed illegal by a given foreign nation's domestic laws (think Switzerland), well the foreign financial institution is required to close the account. It's the law. If you thought you could move your capital to the non-sequestration safety of non-US financial institutions, sorry you lose - the law now says so. Capital Controls are now here and are now fully enforced by the law.

Let's parse through the just passed law, which has been mentioned by exactly zero mainstream media outlets.

Here is the default new state of capital outflows:

(a) IN GENERAL.—The Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting after chapter 3 the following new chapter:

‘‘CHAPTER 4—TAXES TO ENFORCE REPORTING ON CERTAIN FOREIGN ACCOUNTS
‘‘Sec. 1471. Withholdable payments to foreign financial institutions.
‘‘Sec. 1472. Withholdable payments to other foreign entities.
‘‘Sec. 1473. Definitions.
‘‘Sec. 1474. Special rules.
‘‘SEC. 1471. WITHHOLDABLE PAYMENTS TO FOREIGN FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS.

‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—In the case of any withholdable payment to a foreign financial institution which does not meet the requirements of subsection (b), the withholding agent with respect to such payment shall deduct and withhold from such payment a tax equal to 30 percent of the amount of such payment.

Clarifying who this law applies to:

‘‘(C) in the case of any United States account maintained by such institution, to report on an annual basis the information described in subsection (c) with respect to such account,
‘‘(D) to deduct and withhold a tax equal to 30 percent of—

‘‘(i) any passthru payment which is made by such institution to a recalcitrant account holder or another foreign financial institution which does not meet the requirements of this subsection, and

‘‘(ii) in the case of any passthru payment which is made by such institution to a foreign financial institution which has in effect an election under paragraph (3) with respect to such payment, so much of such payment as is allocable to accounts held by recalcitrant account holders or foreign financial institutions which do not meet the requirements of this subsection.

What happens if this brand new law impinges and/or is in blatant contradiction with existing foreign laws?

The only exemption to the rule? If you hold the meager sum of $50,000 or less in foreign accounts.




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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby Gene Gindling » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:42 pm

Seemed interesting to me since it was the Russian president who said it. Probably trying to get the Bubbas in russia to notice? :twisted:
I like Ron Paul also.
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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby Chuck J 3.0 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:52 pm

I luv paper money. :mrgreen:
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Hey, it worked well in Zimbabwe, what could go wrong? :lol:
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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby JvG » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:03 pm

Interesting new bill there, Chuck. Looks kind of official. Is it the new hundred dollar bill, meaning the New Dollar is worth half of what it is now :( , or the new, general purpose twenty dollar bill, meaning a 90 percent devaluation???? :shock: Hmmm.

I am only 56, and the dollar spends like a quarter used to, or was it a dime. Interesting that three silver dimes still buy a gallon of gas, just like they used to. Of course silver sells for ten times more than in my youth. :roll:
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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby Chuck J 3.0 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:35 pm

Hi John, I don't know if they're real or not.

From their P.O.V. it might be a bad idea for the FED RESV. CORP. to print inflation money in a new style, some people would possibly wonder why they have all this new different money, and why it has all these zero's. Better to keep printing the stuff we have now and let sleepers keep sleeping. Hey, what's another 200 or 300 hundred percent increase in the money supply.

No biggee. :alien:

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Re: Feb. 3rd 2010. It's Official, U.S.A. a Police State

Postby oregon woodsmoke » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:53 am

$200 bill; you'll need 5 of those to buy your lunch off of McDonalds $1,000 menu if the polititians don't knock it off.
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