Greetings to all... we finally joined allchile, after many months of (anonymously) reading and researching thru the wealth of information you folks have to offer.
We are g~j - homeless xpats - been wandering the whirld since 1997...
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Hmm, is what I said to myself as I started reading this post, without reading the names of the posters. Hmm, another person who spent time in Thailand. Hmm, southern Thailand. NST? Wow, I lived there. Had Yai? I lived there too! Klong Ngai? I know that place. Hmm, I wonder if I know them??!? Then I looked at the name....Greg and Judy.
I worked with you guys in NST.
How have you all been? Me? I'm pretty sure you know who I am. Anyways, I am in Saipan. Heading over there by August/September.
Maybe you should look for a place where the grass is greener?..
Seriously. The trees sometimes look healthy.. and in some other places they do not, right?..
If the grass grows strong, bright and tall -- this is probably a good place.. for a silly cow it would be good, at least..
If you can watch carefully all the plants, and herbs, and pay good attention, and as soon as you can really see "how they are" -- you can put all other people's advice to the garbage can, and choose the right place..
Yes indeed... you offer wise advice, my bovine buddy... although the compost heap is preferable to the garbage can.
I always look for greener grass and pay very close attention to all manners of plants and herbs...
And where exactly are you grazing these daze, where said grass grows to nurture and satisfy your desires?
Homeless & seeking...
by greg~judy » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:20 am
Last edited by greg~judy on Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:06 am, edited 2 times in total.
“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance.
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by helitool » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:17 am
Sawadi Krahp! Welcome to the forum! Very impressive photos of the south (some of the best I have seen). Did you acquire your bike, in Chile or was it imported? How would you rate the difficulty of biking through the areas you have been to? physically strenuous? How many hours between towns? Did you mostly camp out or stay the night in villages along the way? I take it you are not the usual armchair type of traveler? 
We currently have a house in Chiang Mai Thailand and are currently finishing up our residency paper work for a move to Chile in April.
We currently have a house in Chiang Mai Thailand and are currently finishing up our residency paper work for a move to Chile in April.
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by greg~judy » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:06 pm
sawadee krap, helitool...
Thanx for the compliment... I try to do my best for composition and color.
We brought the bike from YVR-SCL... Air Canada has a flat rate $100 for a bike box... and Sky didn't charge anything to PMC.
Chok de krap on your pending move... where will you be in April - maybe we'll pass by?
Thanx for the compliment... I try to do my best for composition and color.
We brought the bike from YVR-SCL... Air Canada has a flat rate $100 for a bike box... and Sky didn't charge anything to PMC.
Chok de krap on your pending move... where will you be in April - maybe we'll pass by?
Last edited by greg~judy on Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance.
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by helitool » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:07 pm
It will be fall going into winter down there so we will probably go to Aríca up north for 6 months and rent an apartment for that time and get our Spanish up to speed. Then slowly work our way south down to the lake district trying to find the ideal spot to settle in. Maybe way south for the summers and way north for the winters. Judging by the quality of the photos you probably did not scrimp when you bought your camera! I took some of them up to full size and am using one for my desk top photo it is so large. You are providing a very valuable service to us not only by sharing your photos but also by showcasing a very neglected but extraordinarily efficient and appropriate means of transportation which appears to be ideally suited to that area. Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by greg~judy » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:16 pm
Hmmm... we hadn't considered to "winter" up north... might be worth us thinking about?
We have to return to the Left Coast around Apr/May... then plan a return to Chile in Jun.
Your plan to start N then head S has some merit.
We have to return to the Left Coast around Apr/May... then plan a return to Chile in Jun.
Your plan to start N then head S has some merit.
Last edited by greg~judy on Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance.
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by Ripsigg » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:01 pm
greg~judy wrote:sawadee krap, helitool...
Thanx for the compliment... I try to do my best for composition and color.
We brought the bike from YVR-SCL... Air Canada has a flat rate $100 for a bike box... and Sky didn't charge anything to PMC.
We biked up thru Paso Samore, then down thru Angostura, Bariloche, Bolson, then onto the ripio to Cholila and thru Los Alerces. With a loaded tandem + trailer, we found 70km/day reasonable - with obligatory wine and photo stops... but we had a few brutally long 80+ km days on ripio. Some ripio is relatively benign... some can be brutal... and then we all know about the Patagonian winds...eh? Although we were prepared to camp... the weather in Oct. made us look for a roof over our heads at night - got stuck in Bolson for a week during a big storm, but then there are far worse places to be stuck.
BTW... We spent 2 years in S. Thailand... one around Nakon Srithammarat... another south of Had Yai, in Klong Ngai, about 25km from the Malaysian border. Loved Satun and did a lot of "exploring" around the Andaman islands.
Chok de krap on your pending move... where will you be in April - maybe we'll pass by?
Hmm, is what I said to myself as I started reading this post, without reading the names of the posters. Hmm, another person who spent time in Thailand. Hmm, southern Thailand. NST? Wow, I lived there. Had Yai? I lived there too! Klong Ngai? I know that place. Hmm, I wonder if I know them??!? Then I looked at the name....Greg and Judy.
I worked with you guys in NST. How have you all been? Me? I'm pretty sure you know who I am. Anyways, I am in Saipan. Heading over there by August/September.
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by greg~judy » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:30 pm
Hmmm, yerself... indeed a small whirld!
There are a few folks from NST we know can obviously eliminate... and a couple names who you might be... but not sure???
I sent you a pm with our email address...
Talk to ya soon.
There are a few folks from NST we know can obviously eliminate... and a couple names who you might be... but not sure???
I sent you a pm with our email address...
Talk to ya soon.
“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance.
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by RuneTheChookcha » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:44 pm
greg~judy wrote:We are developing a "short-list" of places to visit thru regions X-XIV-IX-VIII-VII-VI..
Maybe you should look for a place where the grass is greener?..
Seriously. The trees sometimes look healthy.. and in some other places they do not, right?..
If the grass grows strong, bright and tall -- this is probably a good place.. for a silly cow it would be good, at least..
If you can watch carefully all the plants, and herbs, and pay good attention, and as soon as you can really see "how they are" -- you can put all other people's advice to the garbage can, and choose the right place..
"Every horse has its stable,
every beast its pen,
every bird its nest.
And God knows best."
~ Rumi (Mewlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī)
every beast its pen,
every bird its nest.
And God knows best."
~ Rumi (Mewlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī)
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by greg~judy » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:56 pm
If you can watch carefully all the plants, and herbs, and pay good attention, and as soon as you can really see "how they are" -- you can put all other people's advice to the garbage can, and choose the right place..
Yes indeed... you offer wise advice, my bovine buddy... although the compost heap is preferable to the garbage can.
I always look for greener grass and pay very close attention to all manners of plants and herbs...
And where exactly are you grazing these daze, where said grass grows to nurture and satisfy your desires?
“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance.
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by RuneTheChookcha » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:53 pm
Ja-ja-ja!..
As one guy said, "...Wandering around, accept how it goes. Accepting how it goes, wander around. Do not be bounded by or settle into any place..."
The author was Hongzhi Zhenjue, actually.. of Mt. Tiantong in Ming Province, you know..
As one guy said, "...Wandering around, accept how it goes. Accepting how it goes, wander around. Do not be bounded by or settle into any place..."
The author was Hongzhi Zhenjue, actually.. of Mt. Tiantong in Ming Province, you know..
"Every horse has its stable,
every beast its pen,
every bird its nest.
And God knows best."
~ Rumi (Mewlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī)
every beast its pen,
every bird its nest.
And God knows best."
~ Rumi (Mewlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī)
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by greg~judy » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:26 pm
Yea verily Rune...
Wandering is known well to this poor soul... as is acceptance.
Yet roots that once were - must be set again, in time.
As rolling stones can gather no grass, so rolling bovines might grow weak and weary.
We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. - T.S. Eliot...
May you arrive where you started, Rune... as you will know the place, and also yourself.
Wandering is known well to this poor soul... as is acceptance.
Yet roots that once were - must be set again, in time.
As rolling stones can gather no grass, so rolling bovines might grow weak and weary.
We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. - T.S. Eliot...
May you arrive where you started, Rune... as you will know the place, and also yourself.
“Most ignorance is vincible ignorance.
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
We don’t know because we don’t want to know.”
↑↑↑ aldous huxley ↓↓↓
“There are things known and there are things unknown,
and in between are the doors of perception.”
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Re: Homeless & seeking...
by RuneTheChookcha » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:09 pm
Now seriously.. because this forum is a serious one.. so we must put all these roots, stones and wanderings aside..
People say, that there's now a good stone bridge between Western Sichuan and Eastern Tibet.. and that on the said bridge there are now many (now jobless) Taoist priests.. who are selling some cool animated/rotating avatars for expat forums.. Also, people say, that in the Cochiguaz Valley (in the 4th Region of Chile) there's an entrance into an underground passage that was dug many years ago, through the center of the Earth, and right to Tibet.. and that on those bridge in China those jobless Taoist priests are now selling tickets to Chile.. the tickets are rather expensive though.. so no one has arrived to Chile from there.. not a single one..
Noone..
How sad..
greg~judy wrote:...western Sichaun and eastern Tibet...
People say, that there's now a good stone bridge between Western Sichuan and Eastern Tibet.. and that on the said bridge there are now many (now jobless) Taoist priests.. who are selling some cool animated/rotating avatars for expat forums.. Also, people say, that in the Cochiguaz Valley (in the 4th Region of Chile) there's an entrance into an underground passage that was dug many years ago, through the center of the Earth, and right to Tibet.. and that on those bridge in China those jobless Taoist priests are now selling tickets to Chile.. the tickets are rather expensive though.. so no one has arrived to Chile from there.. not a single one..
Noone..
How sad..
"Every horse has its stable,
every beast its pen,
every bird its nest.
And God knows best."
~ Rumi (Mewlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī)
every beast its pen,
every bird its nest.
And God knows best."
~ Rumi (Mewlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī)
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