Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby RuneTheChookcha » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:04 pm

It seems that there is nothing like "TreasuryDirect" (like in the U.S.) in Chile. So, only institutional investors can participate in the treasury bond auctions. However, if you have some kind of trading/investment account in Chile, it is [probably] possible for you to invest in these.

The following information was taken from: http://www.hacienda.gov.cl/english/ofic ... da/faq.php

The government has been issuing bonds in the local market since 2003 { please have a look at: http://www.hacienda.gov.cl/english/ofic ... sticas.php :) }, both peso and UF denominated bonds. The government issues bonds through the General Treasury. The Central Bank then carries out monthly bond auctions on dates published on a calendar in the amounts established by the Finance Ministry. The schedule is available on the Finance Ministry website in the section on the Office of Public Debt at: http://www.hacienda.cl/oficinadeuda

In 2008 there have been issues of 10-year peso bonds (BTP-10) and UF-denominated bonds with maturities of 20 and 30 years (BTU-20 and BTU-30).

From March 25 through December 16 of 2009, the Chilean Government will hold monthly auctions of peso-denominated bonds on the local market worth some US$ 1.0 billion.

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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby Magnyz » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:05 am

Interesting links. Some years ago I was trying to find (but failed) detailed information on chilean government bonds, more specifically details regarding financial calculations (such as yield-to-price, accrued interest,etc. Should anybody have an idea on how to find this kind of info pls post. I have tried the obvious ways such as sending e-mail requests to the debt office and central bank but all mails have remained unanswered, como siempre :x .
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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby RWS » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:54 am

Many thanks, RC, for posting such interesting and potentially useful information.
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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby admin » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:11 am

I know most banks provide some sort of investment services to clients. At least Santander does, and they have various mutual funds I believe that invest in them.

The Chile Fund, traded on the NY stock exchange I believe is mostly made up of government bonds.

The thing that bugs my about investments of those sorts in Chile is the lack of transparency. It is too much of a big institution insider's game. Hopefully they really do put together reforms to let average investors in on them.
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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby RWS » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:31 am

Magnyz wrote:. . . . details regarding financial calculations (such as yield-to-price, accrued interest,etc. . . . .

Yield-to-price actually appears on the website of the Hacienda. I'll post the link if I find it again.
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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby Magnyz » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:58 am

Yield-to-price actually appears on the website of the Hacienda. I'll post the link if I find it again.


Just to be clear, I am looking for the actual official mathematical formulas not just a snapshot of a simultaneous yield and price quotation.
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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby RuneTheChookcha » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:28 pm

Magnyz wrote:details regarding financial calculations

With regard to bond math in general.. I have some secret files.. like this one: "Price Calculations for a Regular Treasury Note with Accrued Interest" ( www {dot} elqui {dot} mailworks {dot} org/img/secret.pdf ). :alien:

Though this is about the U.S. Treasuries, but the fundamental principles are the same, so I think..
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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby RuneTheChookcha » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:36 pm

admin wrote:Hopefully they really do put together reforms to let average investors in on them.

And they must split them into cheaper units, say at 1 million each, right?.. :)

Look, one of the "cheapest" bonds in pesos (BTP-5, that was issued on 01-Jul-09) has the "Notional Amount" of 170 millons. :shock:
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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby RuneTheChookcha » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:49 pm

admin wrote:The Chile Fund, traded on the NY stock exchange I believe is mostly made up of government bonds.

Even though you may have some shares of the "Chile Fund, traded on the NY stock exchange" (AMEX, actually?). But. When the "End of the World" begins, then who goes to toilet first: your U.S. based brokerage (together with their clearing firm), or.. who else?

That is the question. :alien:

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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby Laura55llc » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:56 pm

then who goes to toilet first: your U.S. based brokerage (together with their clearing firm), or.. who else?


But your US based brokerage may be here in Chile...

NEW YORK, June 24, 2008 — Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc. (NYSE: MER) announced today that it has reached an agreement to acquire the Chilean equity brokerage firm, Ureta y Bianchi Corredores de Bolsa S.A, as part of a larger plan to build a broad, wholly owned Global Markets and Investment Banking (GMI) platform in Chile.

The acquisition provides Merrill Lynch with an immediate presence in the equities business in Chile and a top-tier equities management team.

It also provides a platform to grow the GMI business as opportunities develop across the full suite of Merrill Lynch's capabilities in Fixed Income, Currencies and Commodities (FICC) and Investment Banking.

Merrill Lynch's previous experience in Chile has confirmed its positive outlook and expectations for the local market.


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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby Magnyz » Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:10 am

Thanks Rune. I am aware of bond math i general and you are right the general principles are the same for all bond markets. What I have been trying to find though is exact details for the chilean bond markets. Normally every major market publish official principles either through the debt office or some dealer association. In Chile it seems they have not and it appears the only way to get this information is via bank research documents (which you cannot get unless you are an institutional client). Anybody know a chilean investment banker?
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Re: Chilean Treasury Bonds

Postby greg~judy » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:52 am

to honor our amigo Rune...
and considering there was nowhere else to park this recent tidbit...
g~j now resurrect this long-dead thread (from exactly 2 yrs ago)...
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Chile Gets $1 Billion 10-Year Dollar Bonds at Cheapest Funding Rate Ever
Sep 8, 2011

Chile, Latin America’s highest-rated borrower, sold $1 billion of dollar bonds at a record-low yield after the biggest rally since December 2008 in benchmark U.S. debt.

The government sold dollar bonds due in 2021 to yield 3.353 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Chile also increased its existing 5.5 percent peso-denominated bonds due in 2020, selling an additional $350 million to yield 4.4 percent. Deutsche Bank AG and HSBC Holdings Plc managed both sales.

Finance Minister Felipe Larrain tapped the international bond market for the first time in more than a year after the yield on 10-year dollar bonds fell 74 basis points from the 3.89 percent paid when they were sold in July last year. That was the least Chile had paid to borrow since it first sold bonds as an independent republic in 1822, Larrain said at the time.

“Chile has very good numbers across the board,” said Gunter Heiland, who helps manage $2.2 billion of emerging-market assets at Greenwich, Connecticut-based investment fund Gramercy and bought the new Chilean dollar bonds yesterday. “It’s a good diversification that was reasonably priced.”

The Andean nation’s economy is growing at its fastest pace in more than a decade at a time when much of the world is struggling with a widening European debt crisis and slower global growth.

The $200 billion copper-based economy will decelerate in the third and fourth quarters after growing 8.4 percent in the first half of 2011, the fastest pace since 1995, Larrain said at the Bloomberg Chile Economic Summit on Aug. 24. The economy may grow by more than 5 percent next year, he said.
Copper Savings

Chile has increased fiscal savings to $18 billion, the highest level since 2009 and about 9 percent of GDP. Copper prices, which plunged 6.6 percent last month after more than tripling in value since 2009, are underpinned by “robust” demand, Thomas Keller, the chief financial officer of Chile’s state-owned copper company Codelco, said at the Bloomberg conference. Copper accounted for more than half of Chile’s exports last month, the central bank said today.

Moody’s Investors Service rates Chile’s dollar bonds Aa3, the fourth-highest investment-grade rating. Standard & Poor’s and Fitch Ratings rank them one level lower at A+.

“Chile is one of the better emerging market sovereigns out there,” said Cathy Hepworth, who helps manage about $15 billion of emerging-market debt for Prudential Financial Inc. in Newark, New Jersey. “In this environment, to the extent that people have cash, it’s attractive.”
Spread Widens

The bond sale establishes benchmarks that will facilitate borrowing for Chilean companies, Larrain said from New York yesterday, according to a ministerial statement sent by e-mail.

Chile’s 2020 dollar bonds yielded 3.15 percent as of 6:45 p.m. New York time yesterday, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That’s a 131 basis point spread over similar maturity U.S. Treasuries, up from 80 basis points on July 7.

The extra yield, or spread, investors demand for Chile’s 10-year dollar bonds instead of U.S. Treasuries widened 55 basis points in the last two months.

“They’re taking advantage of the low yield curve rather than tight spreads,” said Donato Guarino, an analyst at Barclays Capital in New York. “Even though the spread has moved wider, U.S. yields are so low that this is cheap for them.”

The outstanding peso-denominated bonds yielded 4.34 percent as of 8:02 p.m. New York time yesterday, compared with 4.31 percent on Sept. 6, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

“There’s a scarcity of bonds in the market,” said Siobhan Morden, head of Latin America strategy at RBS Securities Inc. in Stamford, Connecticut. “There’s a shift into global foreign exchange bonds at the moment because of the higher yields they offer and the low beta on foreign exchange.”

A low-beta currency is one that’s relatively insulated from fluctuations in market volatility.

The government plans to hold most of the proceeds from the sale overseas, removing any effect on the local exchange rate. Part of the money can be used to repay maturing debt while some will be deposited into an offshore savings fund, the finance ministry wrote in an e-mailed statement.
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