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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby direct » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:05 pm

maxine wrote:Alternatively, I did find this if you get desperate and need to make your own:

http://neckredrecipes.blogspot.com/2009 ... syrup.html


Thank you Maxine.... all I need now is treacle.
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby patagoniax » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:26 pm

maxine wrote:My partner says he is sure he has seen golden syrup in Tottus, but I'm not convinced. We are shopping tomorrow so I'll have a look because I want some for a recipe too.


I have seen treacle and Golden Syrup (the latter a staple in my childhood) in the far south. I think its availability is influenced by the Zona Franca in Punta Arenas. As such both treacle and golden syrup are often seen at the hipermercado Abu Gosch (becoming Unimarc branded now) in the Zona Franca. I have also seen Golden Syrup at the little Unimarc in Pto Natales.

In Tilman's book "Mischief in Patagonia" concerning sailing there in the 1950s, he noted that even though there were severe import restrictions for Punta Arenas, they were delighted to be able to find golden syrup on the shelves. I think the availability has a large part to do with the previous British influence in Punta Arenas which, regrettably, has all but disappeared. Tilman had written about the British influence in Punta Arenas just prior to the opening of the Panama Canal by saying ".... the British community practically ran the place." In fact when I first visited Punta Arenas in 1978 my contact was a Mr Gibbons, who took me to dinner that night with the British consul.
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby Tombi » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:35 pm

Alternatively, I did find this if you get desperate and need to make your own:

http://neckredrecipes.blogspot.com/2009 ... syrup.html


Thanks Maxine! I've been thinking about baking some Anzac biscuits and was wondering what I can substitute the golden syrup with. I wasn't keen on honey flavoured Anzac biccies.
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby maxine » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:09 pm

Tombi wrote:
Alternatively, I did find this if you get desperate and need to make your own:

http://neckredrecipes.blogspot.com/2009 ... syrup.html


Thanks Maxine! I've been thinking about baking some Anzac biscuits and was wondering what I can substitute the golden syrup with. I wasn't keen on honey flavoured Anzac biccies.


My friend has given me some Golden Syrup (so kind!) and custard powder.Looks like hot sponge and custard coming up! Comfort food just perfect for this cold weather!
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby max » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:25 pm

I never had hot dogs with palta, ketchup, and mayonesa until I came to Chile, but I really like hot dogs with saurkraut and ketchup :)
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby patagoniax » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:01 pm

max wrote:I never had hot dogs with palta, ketchup, and mayonesa until I came to Chile, but I really like hot dogs with saurkraut and ketchup :)


Is it true that horse meat ends up in completos? It think this may have been in another thread but I don't remember where it was.
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby tonyakaserg » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:27 am

patagoniax wrote:Is it true that horse meat ends up in completos? It think this may have been in another thread but I don't remember where it was.


From what my wife tells me the myth that Vienesas are made from horse meat was meant to deter children from eating too many Completos. Although Vienesas may contain horse meat amongst other meats is not too far fetched.
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby patagoniax » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:46 pm

tonyakaserg wrote:
patagoniax wrote:Is it true that horse meat ends up in completos? It think this may have been in another thread but I don't remember where it was.


From what my wife tells me the myth that Vienesas are made from horse meat was meant to deter children from eating too many Completos. Although Vienesas may contain horse meat amongst other meats is not too far fetched.


I looked up the carne equina consumption for various countries. Chile seems to "officially" consume only about 0,7 kg/person per year but that was couched in warnings that horsemeat is quietly and improperly sold as beef in some markets. Argentina is about double Chile's official consumption and is also the world's largest horsemeat exporter -- some 29,000 tonnes annually. And Iceland is about 2,8 kg/person per year. Japan turned out to be a huge importer and consumer of horsemeat and Chile is evidently getting into the export business there both for animal feed and human consumption. I just discovered a note that the Japanese eat raw horse meat (called Basahi) - similar to the raw sashimi practice apparently.

I remember seeing a carniceria in Temuco that advertised carne equina many years ago and I was told that this was mostly for those with Mapuche tastes.Supposely there is a Mapuche restaurant in Temuco where they serve horsemeat but I don't know the details.

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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby oregon woodsmoke » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:55 pm

There's nothing wrong with horse meat.

Now, there is other stuff going into hot dogs and sausages that I really do not want to know about. Just eat them; never ask what's in them.
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby patagoniax » Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:34 pm

oregon woodsmoke wrote:There's nothing wrong with horse meat.

Now, there is other stuff going into hot dogs and sausages that I really do not want to know about. Just eat them; never ask what's in them.


That's true. Nothing wrong with proper horse meat. It's actually probably healthier than a lot of the beef that we eat. Nothing wrong with whale meat, for that matter, though horse meat is a bit leaner.
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Re: NEW FOOD IN CHILE FORUM

Postby Gringo Pillo » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:34 pm

admin wrote:It just out of the blue dawned on me, that we really really should have a dedicated food forum. Everything related to eating, cooking, food, goes here. Please enjoy.

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As I stated in anoytehr thread, I had the good fortune to stop by in the mercado of Temuco. I was overjoyed to see real german type frankfurters for sale in the loca stalls. I I am used to these and not like the skinless thing that are sold in stores. I bought some frankurters there from local butcher and loved the taste. Are the ingredients in the artesanal sausages better or the same as in bulk brands????
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Re: ...a “poor” and “unhealthy” diet...

Postby greg~judy » Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:29 am

g~j cannot demonstrate any surprise whatsoever at these data...?
We won't even compare with (generally pathetic) western dietary standards either.
But on a broader world~wide~plate~perspective...
We remain quite unimpressed~underwhelmed at the dietary choices we see here.
Can we blame the country's ability to produce healthy foods?
Of course not!

BTW... g~j know only too well, the root problem(s) behind this study...
But we won't bore you with our analysis.
Assuming many may agree with the gist of the info. presented...
We will wait for them to venture that way.

In full realization - other than some individual awakenings to proper dietary choices...
Nothing is going to change on a cultural level here... the status quo will remain intact.
And that... combining food and health on the same plate (will remain) an elusive concept for many Chileans.
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Most Chileans have a “poor” and “unhealthy” diet shows nutritional report

A study by the Catholic University of Chile and the Banmedical Foundation showed that 62% of Chileans were found to have a “poor diet” and 29% an “unhealthy” diet.

Only 5% of Chileans eat fish more than twice a week Only 5% of Chileans eat fish more than twice a week

The study collected data from 15,000 people over the age of 20, who had participated in the “Eat Healthy” program.

It seems that combining food and health on the same plate is an elusive concept for many Chileans. While foods rich in protein and minerals such as fish, beans, fruit and vegetables, are often absent from Chilean tables, candy and sugary foods occupy an important place in their diets with 63% eating more than the recommended amount of sugary foods.

Analysis of the results suggests that Chilean's poor performance on the healthy eating test is due to the fact that they eat very little of the key foods. For example, 53% said they eat seafood at least once a week, while 42% do so only once or twice a week.

Federico Leighton, director of the Centre for Molecular Nutrition and Chronic Diseases at the Catholic University said “The fact that only 5% of Chileans eat fish more than twice a week is a national disgrace”.

The same is true for beans. Just 10% of respondents eat beans more than twice a week.

“Despite their nutritional value long beans and lentils are mistakenly seen as “poor people's foods”, according to Leighton.

Consumption of olive oil, a product rich in monounsaturated fats that helps reduce cholesterol is also low among Chileans, with only 7% consuming three or more teaspoons per day. However, 58% said that they eat avocado, another source of healthy oils, several times a week.

Other positive news is that only 15% of respondents eat fatty or processed meat twice a week and 85% said that they have reduced the amount of this that they eat.

“That's what we are doing well in, but we can do better,” said Leighton.

The study also revealed that older people are more likely to have a healthier diet. If 46% of those between the ages of 20 and 30 have a poor diet, this percentage decreases with age, with just 9% of those over the age of 61 having a poor diet.

Despite this, Leighton warned that “bad eating habits go hand in hand with low levels of physical activity and smoking, behaviour which increases the risk of chronic disease.”
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