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by **admin** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:31 pm

There are few channels I don't miss. I don't miss the stock pumping and dumping on CNBC. If you followed their advice over the last 10 years, you are likly applying for a job as a greeter at Wall Mart today.

I do get Fox on sat, which unfortunately is often the best source for domestic U.S. coverage you can get on sat in Chile. CNN international is mostly jibberish and runs nothing but advertising of their own shows. Bloomberg I enjoy, but they do very little outside the financial news. CNN in spanish is fairly good, but heavy on the Latin American stories.

by **RWS** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:10 pm

Dagny wrote:I just subscribed to Santiago Times Online in order to beef up my knowledge of current events in Chile. . . . (as I don't yet read Spanish). . . .

Try reading "emol" online. It's simpler than you might think -- Spanish may be the easiest of the world's great languages to learn -- and your childhood French (or Italian, or Latin, or any other Romance language you studied) will help you more than you might think. The pictures on the website might help, too.

After all, if you intend to become part of Chile, you really do need to learn Spanish eventually.

by **RWS** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:11 pm

Lunkey wrote:take one look at their pricing structure and you'll know they don't have the sharpest knives in the drawer working there:
$9.99/month = $120/year
OR
pay a year in advance for $175. . . .

What, you don't find $55.12 a small price to pay for single-payment billing? It is, after all, less than a fifty-percent premium!

by **Dagny** on Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:00 am

RWS wrote:Spanish may be the easiest of the world's great languages to learn -- and your childhood French (or Italian, or Latin, or any other Romance language you studied) will help you more than you might think. The pictures on the website might help, too.

After all, if you intend to become part of Chile, you really do need to learn Spanish eventually.

Oh, we're learning. Rosetta Stone really works, in our opinion. The price is steep, but it is accessible to children and adults alike. Plus my 3 year old plays with neighborhood kids from all over Latin America and I'm stumbling along in conversation with the parents. It is easy, but I keep tripping up and confusing myself with my high school French and the limited German I speak!

At least I'm learning how to be a humble gringa, the parents think my attempts are quite humorous! They also think its crazy that we're planning on leaving the states for South America. Most of them were born in Central America and didn't have an easy time getting to the US.

by **RWS** on Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:50 am

Dagny wrote:Oh, we're learning. Rosetta Stone really works, in our opinion. . . .

Good for you! Conversation helps, too, though speaking with the ill-educated may impair more than aid.

Dagny wrote:. . . . . Most of them were born in Central America and didn't have an easy time getting to the US.

If they're like most Mexicans and other Latin Americans in my state, here in southern New England, they came illegally. You, by contrast, respect the law and people of the country you're headed to, and thus from the first should benefit rather than help destroy its society.

Best wishes.

by **Tonkinese** on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:08 pm

With the growing interest in Chile and an ever increasing english speaking community ,i think we can all agree that another news source is well over due.
Other than that,you have no option but extra spanish classes.

by **Dagny** on Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:29 pm

RWS wrote:
Dagny wrote:Oh, we're learning. Rosetta Stone really works, in our opinion. . . .

Good for you! Conversation helps, too, though speaking with the ill-educated may impair more than aid.
.

does the damage from speaking with the ill-educated apply only to learning language? Or should I
just stop talking to the majority of public school graduates? ONLY KIDDING - :roll:

by **RWS** on Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:54 am

Dagny wrote:
RWS wrote:
Dagny wrote:Oh, we're learning. Rosetta Stone really works, in our opinion. . . .

Good for you! Conversation helps, too, though speaking with the ill-educated may impair more than aid.
.

does the damage from speaking with the ill-educated apply only to learning language? . . . .

By no means! Haven't you considered election results over the past few . . . hmm . . . generations?

by **Dagny** on Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:31 pm

This note just arrived. Times must be hard, they're offering a $25 discount (but still more than the month/month cost of $9.99).
I won't be renewing.

Dear Santiago Dagny

Thank you for your one month-subscription to The Santiago Times.

Although your subscription is about to end, we would be delighted to keep you
on board as a subscriber by inviting you to extend your subscription for a
full year.

If you decide to extend for a full year, your one year subscription will
only cost you US$150 instead of the normal charge of US$175.

Send me a confirmation note, after paying through PayPal to publisher@santiagotimes.cl, so that you
can continue reading the ST each day.

The Santiago Times depends on readers like you to keep us working as a
free and independent media.

Best regards,

________________________

Alejandra Diaz
Santiago Times
Telefono: 56-2-777 5376
subscriptions@santiagotimes.cl
http://www.santiagotimes.cl

by **eeuunikkeiexpat** on Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:40 pm

The publisher appears to have had too much LSD during the 70s. :lol:

Knife soo sharp it can cut without contact. :mrgreen:

by **Tonkinese** on Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:28 pm

Before the S.A. gets crucified, some other issues to consider.

Most mainstream media employ paid journalists whose regular salary supports their prime concern ,namely family and children. They are going to put a lot more depth and commitment into research and reportage than short-term interim students. However, there is nothing good or bad about the S.A., it has its place. There is simply a void to be filled for more outlets to supply those that don’t understand Spanish. More choice, more competition, less monopoly. Better deals.
Although I have not met or spoken as yet to anyone from the Santiago Times, people I know in the media have stated that the publisher is an avid promoter on awareness of environmental issues and a strong defender of abuses against journalists. The Rory Peck Trust should educate the uninitiated . These issues alone get my thumbs up.
There is nothing stopping anybody on the forum starting their own publication for us all to enjoy before H1N1 depopulates.

by **Dagny** on Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:26 pm

Tonkinese wrote:Before the S.A. gets crucified, some other issues to consider.

Most mainstream media employ paid journalists whose regular salary supports their prime concern ,namely family and children. They are going to put a lot more depth and commitment into research and reportage than short-term interim students. However, there is nothing good or bad about the S.A., it has its place. There is simply a void to be filled for more outlets to supply those that don’t understand Spanish. More choice, more competition, less monopoly. Better deals.
Although I have not met or spoken as yet to anyone from the Santiago Times, people I know in the media have stated that the publisher is an avid promoter on awareness of environmental issues and a strong defender of abuses against journalists. The Rory Peck Trust should educate the uninitiated . These issues alone get my thumbs up.
There is nothing stopping anybody on the forum starting their own publication for us all to enjoy before H1N1 depopulates.

Great insight, thanks Tonkinese. On the advice of other forum members I've found some better ways to access the English language news I need. I've not had any problems with the articles I've read over the last month on ST, but if I can find what I need for free I'm going to take that route!

by **eeuunikkeiexpat** on Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:42 pm

Oh I take GREAT ISSUE with so-called expats that use unethical practices wether through intent, incompetence or brain damage.

Hell, Hitler was a non-smoking, vegetarian promotion advocate. (Disclaimer: I only smoke once or twice a year but only the pure stuff from Cuba and I very frequently eat meat preferably on the more organic-raised side of the equation).

Who cares where the first world level charged fees while using essentially free/volunteer/internship labor goes towards?

Illogical arguments in my opnion.

As I stated early in this thread:

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:...but no one else is doing what they do (translate articles from the Chilean press into English). They occasionally have original reporting on topics. Other than that, read with open eyes.

I give them credit for that , no more no less.

Anything else, I struggle with the real source materials WITHOUT COMPLAINT.

I cannot defend hypocrisy.

YMMV

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