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yea, that is what I was going to see if anyone knew. What is so difficult about poring them over your traditional forms?

I have blown out my fair share of traditional forms. What would a concrete pump do to these things? I see all these guys in the photos using a concrete pump. They got to be built for them.

Worse yet, what happens with campo concrete (i.e. batch mixing, cold seals, no concrete trucks)? Can you do a continuous pore with these like they do in super structures (i.e. pore your first row, place your next blocks before the first dries out, pore your next one). Trying to figure out ways to do this without a concrete truck. That would be the holy grail of building in places with only campo concrete (i.e. small mixers and crews). Even if you can get a concrete truck in some rural areas, finding a pump is hard.

admin wrote:yea, that is what I was going to see if anyone knew. What is so difficult about poring them over your traditional forms?

I have blown out my fair share of traditional forms. What would a concrete pump do to these things? I see all these guys in the photos using a concrete pump. They got to be built for them.

Worse yet, what happens with campo concrete (i.e. batch mixing, cold seals, no concrete trucks)? Can you do a continuous pore with these like they do in super structures (i.e. pore your first row, place your next blocks before the first dries out, pore your next one). Trying to figure out ways to do this without a concrete truck. That would be the holy grail of building in places with only campo concrete (i.e. small mixers and crews). Even if you can get a concrete truck in some rural areas, finding a pump is hard.

I once new a Newfie that built an entire house him self and didn't use a concrete truck for it foundation (even though he easily could have got one to the site). If I remember correctly it was him, his wife, his son and maybe his brother that mixed everything on site and poured the entire basement that way. I would guess that if you can get a couple mixers going at once to keep the flow of concrete steady you would be fine. It is just going to take some serious hustle to keep everything moving.

Also, if you watch the Owens-Corning videos you are only supposed to do 4' pours per day or else you increase your chances of blowing out the bottom. So an 8’ wall would take 2 days to pour. But I am sure if you temporarily reinforced the forms with regular forms you could easily pour the entire wall at once and not have to worry about blowing out the bottom.

Charles, these new technologies are pretty cool when done in a controlled environment, with a halfway decent crew and batch mixed mud on call with a pump.
Unfortunately this limits practical application to only a few areas even here in the US.
I recently had a duplex plan drawn and engineered to use SIPS, for a lot I own on the Oregon coast. After getting an estimate from the SIPS vendor, I started looking for a GC who was familiar with the system, no luck in the whole of the Southern Oregon. The SIPS guy didn't want the sale to slip away so he found a fella in Grants Pass who would drive his small crane and crew to the coast, twice. Once to set the 1st story then once to set the second story and roof panels. You do the foundation, stem walls, decking, floor framing, etc etc.
The chances of a monumental clusterfaust increase with every new sub you bring in unless you are onsite 60 hrs a week so I reluctantly had the structure re-engineered as a stick framed building.
Now let's consider Chile, land of opportunity...