Getting a resident status/visa

Postby RobertRay » Fri May 01, 2009 4:24 pm

Hello. RobertRay here. I'm planning a trip to Chile and to probably stay. But I'm a little confused. I see on the Chile consulate website that there are requirements for becoming a resident, like a health certificate and HIV test, etc. I wonder if that can be done in Chile while on a tourist visa? Does anyone know? Will I have to get all that done while in the US?
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby miteeduk » Fri May 01, 2009 7:39 pm

I don't know what people do commonly, but my husband and I entered on a tourist visa and applied for a temporary resident visa while here. We had no problems and are now permanent residents. Good luck!
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby satellite » Fri May 01, 2009 9:31 pm

I came in on a tourist visa but I need a work visa for my job here. For me it's been a four month process to get that and needed:
1. Birth certificate - original, certified by the secretary of state, certified by the chilean consulate that has jurisdiction over that secretary of state
2. University degree - original, certified by the secretary of state, certified by the chilean consulate that has jurisdiction over that secretary of state
3. Marriage license - original, certified by the secretary of state, certified by the chilean consulate that has jurisdiction over that secretary of state

If you have children coming with you - their birth certificate - original, certified by the secretary of state, certified by the chilean consulate that has jurisdiction over that secretary of state

While I've read elsewhere it can all be done from here, the firm that my company used had me do all o these things from the US between trips back and forth. There's more to the process, filing, etc. and it's just simply a long process. I'd at least come prepared with those documents. I don't recall having to submit a health certificate, HIV test, police background check but it's entirely possible the attorneys did this on my behalf.
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat » Fri May 01, 2009 10:12 pm

That is the first time I've ever heard a legalized birth certificate was needed for a visa.

And was this a work subject to contract visa in regards to the legalized university diploma or was this a "professional" 1 year temporary residence visa OR are you working in a capacity like a doctor or engineer that needs extra certification to practice in Chile?
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby satellite » Fri May 01, 2009 10:32 pm

Yes, this was a work subject to contract visa. Nothing highly specialized but I may have different circumstances than most. I also preferred to be prepared so that I'm not surprised and delayed by all the "requirements" for which one might be asked.

Thankfully Chile isn't a place where they ask you for a certified Ben Franklin. :wink:
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby RobertRay » Sat May 02, 2009 12:49 am

Thanks very much. But, how do you get the Chilean consulate to certify a birth certificate?
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby Zenth » Sat May 02, 2009 1:52 am

You have the signature on the birth certificate notarized. Then you have the notary signature authenticated by the city or county that the notary is licensed. Then you bring that to the Chilean embassy or consulate for their authentication.
You might then have to bring it to a Chilean Gov't office in Santiago to have it legalized.
After that, it's all down hill.
The same procedure exists for a U.S.A. marriage certificate.
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby RobertRay » Sat May 02, 2009 1:40 pm

Thank you. Sounds like fun.
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby satellite » Sat May 02, 2009 5:06 pm

Exactly as Zenth has said. I dug out my legalization instructions that I received from my Santiago based attorneys. I have not copied everything here as there are two documents, each about 10+ pages each that detailed everything for me. Effectively I needed stamps for my stamps for my stamps to be brought here to Chile to be stamped again (by the Ministry of Labor). :roll:

Below is a key excerpt from the documenation I recieved. It's general to Latin America (they give Costa Rica examples below) but I did have to produce all of these documents specifically for Chile:

Unlike most Common Law countries (i.e. the United States, Canada and United Kingdom), Latin American countries require extensive official document gathering, which includes legalizations through different government entities.

Traditionally, the Latin America region has had a culture of distrust when it comes to providing legal documentation for evidence in administrative processes. Thus, immigration processes require that all “fact support” documents (those offered as evidence for the application) be either legalized or apostilled through public agencies.
Some examples of “fact support” documents that will require legalization or apostille:

1. Birth and Marriage Certificates (as they are used to evidence spousal and parental relationship for dependant visa applications, and in some instances, to evidence the nationality or former nationality of a principal applicant);
2. Letters of Support (as they are used to evidence employment, transfer purpose, title and position to be taken);
3. Copies of University Degrees or other professional qualifications (as they evidence education and license qualifications);
4. Letters of Experience (as they evidence relevant work experience as to the duties to be performed).
5. Police Certificate of non-criminal record (to evidence good conduct).

NOTE: This list is not exhaustive, but rather an overview of the most frequently required documents.
In this memo we will review, in detail, the processes of legalization and apostille of these documents, as it is a basic need for all LATIN AMERICAN immigration processes.

A) Legalization

Legalization is a broad term; however, in the scope of document procurement it is defined as “the process of authenticating signatures as to the highest level possible.”
The best way to understand it is by an example:

Let’s say your process requires the legalization of an Orlando, Florida issued birth certificate so it can be used as parental evidence for a Costa Rica immigration application. In order to legalize this document these would be the steps to follow:

1. First, the provided document needs to be assessed. If the provided document is no longer valid (i.e. issued in old official formats, or the signatory public servant is no longer registered) there will be a need for obtaining a new document. If a new document is indeed needed, we may require from you a special release authorization so we can represent you before the authorities and obtain the document on your behalf.
2. Once the new birth certificate is obtained the document will need to be sent to the State Department with jurisdiction over the registry that issued the document. In the study case it would be the State Department of Florida located in Tallahassee.
The State Department will then authenticate (or legalize) the registrar’s signature located in the original birth certificate.
3. Then the document will be sent to the appropriate consulate with jurisdiction over the state department that certified the document (in the example case that we are discussing, the proper consulate would be the Costa Rica consulate located in Miami, Florida).
The appropriate consulate will then authenticate the State Department’s signature that authenticated (or legalized) the registrar’s signature located in the original birth certificate.
4. Then the document will be sent to the receiving country (in the case study: Costa Rica). Our local offices would then work directly with the government agency that has authority over the consulates (in Costa Rica this would be the Ministry of Foreign Affairs).

The government agency will then authenticate the Consulate’s signature; which legalized the State Department’s signature; that authenticated the registrar’s signature located in the original birth certificate.

The whole process can take several weeks and thus the sooner it is started the faster in can be concluded. Please note that without proper legalized documents the visa applications in Latin America cannot be filed.

NOTARIZATION SPECIAL NOTE: Some other types of documents will require previous NOTARIZATION before they are sent to the state department [step two (2) as described above]. For instance, Letters of Support traditionally are not government issued documents; thus, a notary public will need to witness the signature of the document and certify that the signature is legitimate. This rule may also apply for Police Certifications of Non-criminal record.
Once the document is notarized the State Department will accept the petition for legalization.

Notary rules change from state to state and from country to country, the firm cannot be held accountable for notary public errors in their certifications. It is responsibility of the notary to certify the signature per the rules and guidelines of his or her jurisdiction.

NEW YORK SPECIAL RULE: In the State of New York an extra step is required: legalization by the County Clerk before we can take it to the state department.
INTERNATIONAL NOTE: Each country has own legalization procedures; thus, before the documents can reach to the consulate we must clear the special local rules. Most of the countries have something similar as the example above; however, we suggest that the assignee is prepared for specific delays depending on local country rules.


It appears the wait time for documents to come from the East Coast are much longer. I don't know if it has to do with the UN being in NYC or they are understaffed or overworked or what. All of but one of the documents took a period of 3-4 weeks to get them, Apostille them and authenticate them from the Chilean Consulate. One doc. from Connecticut has taken over four months now and we still haven't had it sent to the Sec. of State, let alone send it to the NY consulate for authentication.

Anyone reading this may have a different process depending if you're retiring here, etc. This has simply been my experience as I am here on a work subject to contract visa for the next few years. As far as the HIV and police background check, I think the attorneys must have handled that aspect as I did not specifically get those documents myself.
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby fulanoamericano » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:05 pm

Okay. The thread starter had roughly the same question as me but I wanted to double check some of the information to make sure that I understand it right and that the information is not outdated. I am considering moving to Chile and I have my eyes on a cheap plane ticket that I would like to go ahead and purchase. Just to make sure, can I go to Chile and obtain the tourist visa upon arrival without needing to complete any preliminary steps while in the U.S.? If so, can I apply for the temporary residence visa in Chile while I still have the tourist visa? If so, what if my tourist visa expires before I can get a temporary residence visa? Thank you in advance for giving me clear and thorough answers to my questions. I apologize if they are dumb questions but I just want to be 100% sure.
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby rachelmarama » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:38 pm

You can probably get most of the answers by reading through the forum... but here's what I know:
-Yes, you can get a tourist visa on arrival. Some countries pay a reciprocity fee & I think for US citizens it's about $100. You pay on arrival at Santiago airport. Pretty sure this is valid for 10 years or something, but search on that one
- Yes, you can apply for temporary residence while in the country on a tourist visa.
- If your tourist visa runs out, you can do a Visa run. This is leaving the country, then coming back in. From Santiago, people often go to Mendoza, Argentina for the weekend. I'm in the North and i've done visa runs to Bolivia.
- Preliminary steps in the US in terms of the visa itself, I think all the advice on this forum will tell you no, but getting all your paperwork legalised and notorised - definitely do that while you are in the US.
Hope that's helpful.
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Re: Getting a resident status/visa

Postby fulanoamericano » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:57 am

Thanks Rachel. I will definitely try to get everything done that I can while in the U.S., especially getting my academic titles notorized if they are not already and I think that I can get at least most of the steps done before I leave because the plane ticket is scheduled a month from now. I have already done the criminal background check and the HIV test and I have a physical scheduled for tomorrow. I am confident that they would not have grounds to reject me because I'm a law abiding citizen, I can put sufficent funds in my bank account and I am completely healthy. I was thinking about purchasing my plane ticket and bringing all of my documents in person to the consulate. Is this a good idea?
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